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The Nr Fairy 25th Nov 2011 14:41

I think the Plessey report is this one from the AAIB archives.

And the Bell 47 breakup, is it this one, also from the archives ?

CharlieOneSix 25th Nov 2011 15:36

Nr Fairy - that 47 report is the accident I was after! I didn't realise the AAIB reports went back that far. Just cannot place the pilot's name - quite a tall thin guy.

Savoia 25th Nov 2011 17:31


At that point in British executive/corporate rotary aviation there had been remarkably few dramatic fatalities of this nature (probably the closest incident was three years earlier when G-AXAY (on contract to Plessey) came apart above Inkpen Hill near Hungerford).
As mentioned (above) on the Ferranti thread, G-AXAY was a particularly unpleasant episode and I remember my godfather sharing with me the conjecture among the rotary fraternity in '74. There had been speculation as to whether the pilot's briefcase (stowed atop the instrument panel) had played a part in the dramatic loss of control. Can anyone remember the name of the pilot who flew AXAY on that unfortunate day?

The Plessey contract seems to have done the rounds with Bristow using a 206 for some time then, one assumes Mann had it for a while. Ferranti also served this contract (for about two years if I remember correctly).

Sadly I have never been able to obtain a clear shot of AXAY .. indeed the best I can do is her yellow tailpiece (below) behind another 206:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...2525201973.jpg
G-AXAY (behind another 206) in July 1973

vfr440 25th Nov 2011 18:26

Sav
Very sad event. Engineer here, would 'rotor oscillation = mast 'bumping' in engineer-speak? In which cass it's terminal - VFR

Geoffersincornwall 25th Nov 2011 18:32

Casulaties
 
We had a particularly bad spell in the late 70s early 80s with too many casualties in the charter fleet. Nigel Thornton, and John Ackroyd-Hunt were followed by Tim Ridgeway (once our superb ops officer) in a fixed wing accident, then the loss of Colin Bates and Spotty Mulhern heaped tragedy upon the sadness.

G. :{

Savoia 25th Nov 2011 20:18


VFR wrote: .. would 'rotor oscillation = mast 'bumping' ..
Are you referring to the report on G-AXAY? In which case I would need to go through it. How they would be able to determine mast bumping by any means other than scoring on the upper portion of the mast itself I don't know but fully agree that if this occurred .. there would have been no hope as the deflection required to achieve 'bumping' in flight would doubtless despatch the boom post haste.

Geoffers, some great guys there. John Ackyroyd-Hunt along with PPRuNe's own TRC arrived in a ploughed field in Norfolk to rescue the Colonel and I after an engine failure in Colin Chapman's 206. He was flying with large green 'Wellies' and which I thought was hilarious at the time.

Flew several times with Colin (including in Hanson's 76) but most memorably in ex-Ferranti 206 G-AZZB when he gave me the same base check he had just performed on my godfather. So (apparently) impressed he was that he offered to buy me a drink at the local on the way home - despite the fact that I was under age at the time lol!

Spotty was of course ex-Ferranti and, to bring the story full-circle I must pay tribute to the late Hugh Lovett who perished in Ferranti's G-AVSN at the 1977 Biggin Hill Airshow and which incident I was referring to in my quote from post #183 above when I also mentioned G-AXAY.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...2520Lovett.jpg
The late Hugh Lovett (RIP)

Commissioned into the Queen's Own Hussars in 1964 from Sandhurst, passed through the Army pilot's course in 1967 and flew with the Queen's Own Hussars Air Squadron on active service in Aden and in the Trucial Oman States. Attended the QHI course in 1969 and instructed at the School of Army Aviation, Middle Wallop, until 1971. Joined Ferranti Helicopters in 1975.

Geoffers, back to Mann's. Greece - was the work there purely private assignments for Papadakis?

NJT 25th Nov 2011 20:22

who remembers this one?
 
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...w/s512/AM3.jpg

Savoia 25th Nov 2011 20:25

Go on then NJT, explain what the heck you 'Alan Manners' were getting up to!

NJT 25th Nov 2011 21:00

Was this the Professionals or the Avengers? (1978)
 
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--...0002.jpg?gl=GB

TRC 25th Nov 2011 21:02


....an in-flight breakup of a Bell 47 which resulted in the death of an ex-RN QHI....
It was Peter Faulkes


who remembers this one?
I do - I think it was for a Bollywood extravaganza shot at Fairoaks


was this the Professionals or the Avengers? (1978)
It was for The Avengers - me and Willy Caldicott climbing up and down a rope ladder to prove that it could be done.

CharlieOneSix 25th Nov 2011 22:10


Originally Posted by TRC (Post 6826994)
It was Peter Faulkes.

It was indeed - many thanks TRC

Geoffersincornwall 26th Nov 2011 03:43

SAV
 
Greece - My trip to Greece in 1982 was the beginning of Niki's commercial enterprise and involved the Athens Aviation Services and their embryonic heliport experiment.

During my time there I was asked to do many strange tasks including the resupply of a family yacht when the fridge broke down, visit one of the Papadakis line ships at anchor with dozens of others to the North of Athens, deliver candidates to election rallies, visit the family 'home' island of Kasos east of Crete. Many 'social' flights involved island hopping whilst the yacht 'Little Cayman' followed on. Niki wasn't a great sailor but enjoyed life on board. I remember once flying some supplies out to a rendezvous in a small rocky bay and parking TPTR on a small ledge. It was a hot summer day and I was feeling the heat so Niki offered me a pair of swimming trunks from his visitor's store and I had a delicious cooling dip that was so gorgeous that I felt it made being a helicopter pilot the best job in the world. A shower and reality beckoned. It was a magic summer - a journey that took in Le Touquet, Lausanne, Genoa, Pescara, Bari, Corfu, Zakintos, Athens plus many islands visits and fishing trips. Niki treated me like a brother much to the annoyance of his female companion and he was a kind and thoughtful employer.

Another chapter of the memoirs maybe? One day I will find the time to write them.

G. :)

Nigel Osborn 26th Nov 2011 08:28

TRC

Was Peter ex army before he joined the RN?

bast0n 26th Nov 2011 09:20

To all ex AMers

This is a super picture of Peter Faulkes at his best!! A truly lovely chap and a good friend of mine in the FAA. Such a sad loss.

Some of you may remember the others in the picture!

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...yPhotos141.jpg

D

Savoia 26th Nov 2011 09:25

Bast0n: Great to see the Wessexmeister on the Mann thread! :ok:

Please, for the benefit of non-FAA'ers, could you do a 'left to right' of the characters in your photo!

Grazie mille.

Sav

bast0n 26th Nov 2011 10:04

Savoia

Left to right, Peter Faulkes, John Kelly, Mike Smith, and an other..........

Savoia 26th Nov 2011 10:54

Yes, extreme starboard I had already guessed as the 'handsome Wessex driver', lol!

Mike Smith as in Mike Smith who flew with Air Gregory and ended-up sporting a goatie most of his life? If so then my, he was young there!

vfr440 26th Nov 2011 12:39

Older.....but more gracious?!
 
S
Yes, we were all young (and I cringe sometimes looking at old photos :suspect:) but. like good wine, including Vino Nobile of which we have spoken previously, we mature/ MUCH better deal all round :8. And we are more tolerant of the excesses of enthusiasm that we witness amongst our younger 'brethren'.

Well I try to be, anyway :O - VFR

bast0n 26th Nov 2011 13:08

Sav

Yup! the same goatee bearded and all round good egg Mike Smith, father of Q.

VFR

How you can you be more gracious than Faulkes and friends............:ok:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...faulkesGib.jpg

Savoia 27th Nov 2011 04:51

Bast0n failed to include the following disclaimer in his photo above:

"Any resemblance between the chap behind me and the Tintin character Capt. Haddock is purely coincidental."

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...520Haddock.jpg

;)


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