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manfromuncle 12th Mar 2010 20:23

Humberside BP/Conoco
 
What happened to the Humberside BP thread?

Pontius Pirate 12th Mar 2010 21:33

dee dums...has someone spat their dummy and had it removed!! I hope the bristows guys are currently well fed and watered cos from what I hear they wont be come 1st Sept!!:mad:

Senior Pilot 12th Mar 2010 21:43

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stan27 12th Mar 2010 23:03

Why?????????? what happens on the 1st of september?

Hoppit 13th Mar 2010 06:32


I hope the bristows guys are currently well fed and watered cos from what I hear they wont be come 1st Sept!
Not sure why you say that, haven't Bristows won the BP contract from CHC? Or do you know something else? :suspect:

Macaco Norte 13th Mar 2010 09:16

praps wot e means is that Bristows r used ta't crusts cut off't butties luke warm mochalattes n't corners of t'newspapers ironed but wi this contract int NSNS they'll be lucky ta get latest wind.:}

902Jon 13th Mar 2010 10:32

Bristow has won the BP contract from Humberside.

I hope the bristows guys are currently well fed and watered cos from what I hear they wont be come 1st Sept!!
BP do not feed/water crews. i.e. there is no refreshments.(Except the West Sole A who do a nice Espresso/latte).

helimutt 13th Mar 2010 11:39

We hear Bristows always asking for sandwiches/refreshments down in the SNS ? Viking etc, but BP don't feed the crews. You might get fed from the actual offshore guys when you pick them up on an evening, but that's it.

There are now about 40 pilots looking for work wherever they can get it from 31st August 2010.:sad: Seemingly Bristows have enough pilots already.

Just hope the stress doesn't cause any incidents either on the flying side or engineering side. :eek: Thinking you're being made redundant in less than 6 months doesn't exactly keep you in the right frame of mind!:hmm:

Paul Chocks 13th Mar 2010 12:02

What is the law regarding current employees if a contract changes management (company). Are the present employees jobs protected - I know they are in other countries.

manfromuncle 13th Mar 2010 12:10

I don't anything official has actually been announced Re: BP humberside.

manfromuncle 13th Mar 2010 12:12

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/391...-question.html

helimutt 14th Mar 2010 08:12

Glad to see a sense of humour:ok:
Anyone got Bristows HR address for me please? :hmm:

Yonez 14th Mar 2010 13:12

mut

Dunno for sure, heard they were on the move, but try:

Humberside Airport
Kirmington
North Lincolnshire
DN39 6YH.

:E

Yonez 14th Mar 2010 13:15

Was gonna give ya the chief pilots No up there but affraid thats HR for Bond.:E

Banksman 14th Mar 2010 17:06

Helimutt

Try Bristow Helicopters Ltd
Aberdeen Airport
Dyce
Aberdeen

AB21 0NT

Hummingfrog 14th Mar 2010 18:47

Hello Helimutt


Seemingly Bristows have enough pilots already.
Where did this info come from? Surprised that Bristows have 9+ N Sea IFR 3000 hr pilots to fill the Captain/training positions plus 9 IFR N Sea experienced co-pilots who can fly for more than 2 hrs without being fed. :confused:

HF

Tractor_Driver 14th Mar 2010 19:22

I heard that Willie Toner was coming back a a Tea Boy, to make up bait tins for the pilots.

:)

helimutt 14th Mar 2010 21:15

Well you know what rumour mills are like!


As for Yonez, you're a funny guy! :D
I know we all like to have a bit of a laugh, but it's a bloody shame for the guys who've worked their t*ts off for the last 12-18 months off, ops, management, pilots, engineers etc trying to give the best service possible to bp, then now find themselves looking at the very real possibility of redundancy with not many opportunities available, especially if they have no other trade to fall back on. Families suffer, children suffer through school changes etc.

dieseldo 14th Mar 2010 23:59

Rumour has it that BP are now asking for a fourth aircraft for this year. So the expectation is that the Humberside guys will work their arses off again, despite having been kicked in the nuts by BP. This will probably happen as professional people will do a professional job, which BP do not deserve.

helimutt 15th Mar 2010 07:51

Interesting times?

chcoffshore 15th Mar 2010 07:54

They could always wet lease from another business unit:uhoh:

AndyJB32 15th Mar 2010 09:50

contracts........
 
At the end of the day, BP will still need a similar number of people to service the SNS on september 1 as they did Aug 31. As far as i can see, Bristows - or any offshore company - always run quite tight on staff numbers, so don't have excess staff sitting round waiting for extra work. People may need to change company, or get a change of base (hopefully all done to suit people's requests). whatever the reasons for the change of contract, i think all the guys at humberside - pilots, engineers and ops/ground staff - can be more than pleased with the great service they've given BP over the past years.

Don't think we should be panicking quite yet.

Pullharder 15th Mar 2010 10:07

calm down.....
 
Guys, sorry to say that Bristow's does not need anyone....we have 4 s76c++, and a back up of 3 ec155.....they are sitting in a private hanger at Norwich, along with 27 fully qualified IFR type rated P1s and P2s at home on gardening leave, and 22 engineers, 9 ops staff, a c.p. and 3 tre's and 2 ltcs.....so thanks all the same but after the 31st of aug get yourselves down the job centre in scunthorpe...
:eek:

flap flap flap 15th Mar 2010 10:28


Guys, sorry to say that Bristow's does not need anyone....we have 4 s76c++, and a back up of 3 ec155.....they are sitting in a private hanger at Norwich, along with 27 fully qualified IFR type rated P1s and P2s at home on gardening leave, and 22 engineers, 9 ops staff, a c.p. and 3 tre's and 2 ltcs.....so thanks all the same but after the 31st of aug get yourselves down the job centre in scunthorpe...
I wouldn't take this as the truth!

lead and lag 15th Mar 2010 10:36

I think the job centre in Grimsby has more opportunities, especially for all the extra chefs BP will require to feed the Bristows guys:ok:

Pontius Pirate 15th Mar 2010 21:50

hopefully those nice bp chefs can rustle up some extra large doughnuts and ram them down pullharder's throat to prevent him from spouting even more sh**e!:ok:

NorthSeaTiger 15th Mar 2010 21:57

So what has CHC actually got left on the SNS ?

NST

Wizzard 15th Mar 2010 21:59

Quote Pullharder:


Guys, sorry to say that Bristow's does not need anyone....we have 4 s76c++, and a back up of 3 ec155.....they are sitting in a private hanger at Norwich, along with 27 fully qualified IFR type rated P1s and P2s at home on gardening leave, and 22 engineers, 9 ops staff, a c.p. and 3 tre's and 2 ltcs.....so thanks all the same but after the 31st of aug get yourselves down the job centre in scunthorpe...
Nice to see that there's still some compassion in this industry...

W@nker!

212man 16th Mar 2010 03:12


W@nker!
That probably explains what he's pulling....:ugh:

Heliman74 16th Mar 2010 07:14

The loss of the BP contract for you lot could be a blessing. It will untie your hands of so many things. With BP no longer "throwing their teddy out the pram" every 5 minutes, you have so much oppurtunity to service the other customers better. How many times did the other customers get shafted because of BP throwing their weight around, and certain people treating them like they were God? **** 'em.


This may well lead to more work, especially if you manage to get a decent forward looking management team to make it work. Just think of the all the work that was turned down because BP wouldn't release an aircraft? :ugh:

Weekend charter work might even be a possibility now!:)

(PS: Would this put an end to that stupid saga of staying on base?)

Later little dudes! Surfs Up!

sox6 16th Mar 2010 09:42

With customer service ethos like that at 'CHC UK' is it no wonder that customers are leaving to Bond, NHV and Bristow? Perhaps a few lessons can be learnt from Den Helder.;)

Heliman74 16th Mar 2010 09:55

Customer service like what? You idiot! The guys at Humberside have bent over backwards for that customer for years. They've given them everything, pulled rabbits out of hats for them, and they still went to another operator. The service they receive is very good, and I'm sure will continue to the end.

The same happened in Aberdeen when BP didn't renew with CHC. Daily flights there more than doubled in the first couple of months after. Crews were worried, but turned out they had no need to be.

Den Helder - Customer Service?! Don't make me laugh. You lot have more strikes under your belts than a baseball match!

sox6 16th Mar 2010 10:41

Well if the customer agreed why the thread?

Pullharder 16th Mar 2010 12:06

jeeez...
 
sox6 you donut.......probably because the other quoted a cheaper price...nothing else...for the OTHER DONUTS that commented on my other thread.....if you knew anything about the north sea you would know it was a joke...NO OPERATER HAS LOTS OF SPARE PILOTS,ENGINEERS OR AIRCRAFT HANGING AROUND WAITING FOR WORK.. WE CAN HARDLY KEEP UP WITH THE CURRENT WORKLOAD!!!!!!!!!!:ugh:
Compassion..... I happen to have a very good friend working at Humberside,just trying to lighten the mood.....

Up Heli R 16th Mar 2010 12:10

In my experience the cross section of pilots (and engineers) that are employed by each of the operators on the North Sea is very similar. Everyone has their own personal pride in achieving their best, whether it be for themselves or their employer; including bending over backwards and pulling rabbits out of hats. The only difference between the operators has been the competency of management; or severe lack of it in some cases.

Playing musical chairs has not always been the prerogative of CHC. Over the years employees of Bristow, BAH, BIH, Bond and BCAL have also experienced the dreaded prospect of being laid off. Don't slag off other pilots, we're all in the same boat; the problem needs to be addressed further up the company chain.

Regrettably, while there is competition in this environment we will always be subjected to the vagaries of accountants, most of whom don't care about an individuals personal circumstances, other than their own. Whether you have provided an outstanding service or not is irrelevant to them. You only have to look at the contract history for Shell, BP, Mobil and Marathon, to name a few.

dieseldo 16th Mar 2010 13:26

The service run out of Humberside last year was an all stops out effort by the staff as everybody knew that only the best was going to be good enough to retain BP.

Humberside over an extended period was flying more flights a day with 5 aircraft than Aberdeen was with 15(?). Albeit shorter flights but each flight requires turning round. Minimum age of aircraft about 15. A huge engineering effort to achieve this with old aircraft and lack of spares.

BP is probably about 75% of Humbersides work so the loss of this contract is going to cause major disruption to a lot of lives.

The general feeling is that Bristows will fly it using Humberside as a line station so jobs actually at Humberside will be minimal.

TUPE probably does not apply as it is contract end.

SOX 6 hasn't a clue what he is talking about. W@nker is putting it mildly.

Fingers are being pointed but not in the direction of the Humberside staff, their operational performance and customer service.

lead and lag 16th Mar 2010 16:48

look guys as someone who is in it and worried about my future I dont think the future is going to be sorted out for some time yet.. there are possibilities for us all of that I am sure - what I am not sure of is where they will be, only time will tell I guess.

Comments by certain people on here are not at all helpful, we as a group are trying to maintain our professionalism even though most of us most likely feel like telling BP where to stuff it right now.

Its going to be a s**t 5 months

:(:mad:

-272.15 degrees Cels 19th Mar 2010 00:00

Even though Bristow pilots are (were) under the threat of redundancy, the company most likely cannot fully crew this contract. Time to get the CV in if you are already based in Humberside.
Chin up ladies and gents.

Snarlie 19th Mar 2010 09:23

Real World
 
In amongst all the bottom lip trembling and foot stamping, some people seem to have overlooked the harsh truth of the real world where the client is King. A helicopter support contract is just another commercial contract, no different in essence from the cleaning company that cleans the offices or catering company that does school meals. The client defines the task and the supplier offers a service. The client will assume that the workers will bend over backwards to give the best possible service, it is up to management to work out an effective compromise between numbers and coverage within the bounds of a sensible bid. There is unlikely to be a clause to consider Captain A`s little Johnny who has just gone to a new school and has made lots of nice new friends.
BP`s actions are not new, oil companies have been seeking best value for money since they began operations, it is part of the business that many of us have chosen to be in.

Yonez 19th Mar 2010 21:14

Snarlie
There aint any lip tremblin/footstampin because humberside lost the contract. Its more likely to be the way its all come about.
Im sure the guys dont need to be told the ways of the world. They are all, im sure, quite intelligent blokes and to compare offshore contracts to office cleaners contracts is a little naive.


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