Cholmondeley Pageant of Power 2010
I need to avoid the last minute 'box of frogs' we had in 2009 when the insurers for the Event asked for indemnities etc from every pilot with 7 days to go. Amazingly, despite the timing, 74 pilots out of 86 registered to attend were able to comply.
Does anyone have the definitive suggestion for 'best practice' that I can put to the insurer (bear in mind they are not aviation specialists). Would it be a straightforward indemnity, a copy of insurance with certain level of cover? All advice gratefully received. On the news side the Black Cats, BBMF spitfire, Falcons, Red Baron dogfight etc etc have all confirmed. Just need the weather.. |
Sweatshop
One thing the organisers of the whole event could do is to make more of the helis that do turn up. WSM has the crowd getting a closer look at the machines. The field used last year was big enough to rope-off 5m of walkway for the crowd to use. And a temporary bridge over the track to facilitate them "visiting" (and us getting to / from machines) would help. A great day last year (though weather was awful!) John |
-making the most of the aircraft
I'm in full agreement John. After the mudbath in the car clubs area last year the Event director has moved the car clubs into last year's heli park (and there will be a bridge over the track). The helipark this year has moved back to where we had it in the first year (adjacent to the castle, the sponsors padock and the shedding where all the cars wait to race). Last year the Challenger II and other Heavy Metal turned this into a churned bog -not ideal when it is right in front of the castle. So the helis have regained their rightful place! This means we are on the inside of the track -so no 15 minute delays to get over the track between race classes. It also means spectators will be able to get much closer to the aircraft. Another thing -there will be a 'county loo' cabin with M&F facilities next to the ATC cabin! After the fourth pilot had asked for 'facilities' before departure last year I got the message.
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John
Firstly I'd discuss it with the insurer and see what they're after and secondly why not just ask for copies of insurance certificates from every heli pilot that registers. Joel :ok: |
Thanks Joel -I don't wish for the broker to look at Silverstone or Aintree and apply the same principles (as happened last year). If the norm for events such as WSM and GFofS is for copies of insurance docs then that will be easily sufficient for us. Guess I should give the organisers of Goodwood and Weston a call -perhaps also a call to Haywards (although they're not the insurers of the Estate).----John
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Is there a date yet so we can lock our diaries?
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It's the 17th and 18th of July with the evening fireworks concert on the Saturday (Manchester Camerata orchestra and a military band -Royal Artillery doing the 1812). Hope you can make it again---John
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Aiming to fly the family in again. "Extended family" lives local(ish) and drives down for a get-together.
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I'm glad the helipad has moved back to the site of the first year, it was much better there. Having had a great weekend there in year 1, I was a little disappointed with the whole experience last year.
Any chance of being treated like an 'entrant' this year, ie free nosebag, access to the drivers tent etc (as in year 1?). The outside catering is a little rough on site. If you don't ask..... If you want any VIPS bringing up from north of London, let me know (but not Katie Price...) |
Definately interested in a tour!
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Looking after pilots and passengers...
...announcement due soon of the main airside sponsor and what will be available. However what is certain is that Air Covers (Coptercovers) are once again doing the organising and in place of an organising fee they ask that no landing fees are charged and all pax and pilot receive free entry passes!
John |
well done John - already in my dairy!!
Glad to hear helos are back where they should be - just hope the weather is better this time around... Looking forward. TTB PS - we should try and organise a meet for the Prooners too; last year was pathetic!! |
Ppruners meet up
Now that's a good idea! I'll try to put a map of the site (as planned for 2010) on to the aircovers website so you can make a plan. Mobile phone reception is poor on site -although I think the Estate is trying to find a temporary mast for the weekend. Pilot registrations are also now open for CPOP 2010 (on the aircovers website).
I'm thinking of trying to encourage pilots to arrive before 10.30am and to depart after 1600hrs -any thoughts on this? It will make it easier for the Displays coordination -instead of trying to fit them all into the lunch hour I'd like to have one every 45 minutes between 1030 and 1545.---John |
John - I'll be flying from Kent to Cornwall to Cheshire that morning , so may struggle to get there by 10:30, but I imagine it will be fine for most peeps.
I suggest an RV where we'll be easily recognised - apparently last year, John R81 (whom I followed all the way up) and I were standing 10 feet apart for 20 mins and didn't realise it!! Last year we had Joel (and his amazing departure :eek:), rotormaniac, 206 jock and whirlybird interested in hooking up with a bacon butty. Any other takers? If so, PM me with your contact details and I'll co-ordinate :ok: PS John's website registration is here |
Great to know you'll be making such a long schlep Toptobottom. With that suggestion I'll make sure ATC knows of anyone doing a longhaul. It might mean you have to hang around for 5 minutes if a display is underway but you'll have the frequency and all should be smooth----John
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Signed up!
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Leave it with me John, re the tour (nose) around the castle...have to let you know nearer the time, will keep you posted :ok:
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Nearly There - I'd defo be up for a tour too if there's a chance?!
TTB |
Are we about time for instructions?
John |
Having been asked to provide an ATS at this event it would be nice if pilots instructions, airfield manual and air traffic procedures were available. However nothing appears to be forthcoming.:ugh:
Applications for a RA(T) and a frequency have been made and that's about it. Time is running out. |
Any news? my wife said someone called to speak to me about this but I am stuck on a conference call doing my day job!!!!
More and more it gets in the way! If I didn't keep spending the money..... |
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Mine is done. Will be there Saturday flying G-FEDA |
Mine too. Are we going to try and meet in "Prooner's corner" this year?!
TTB |
cholmondy pageant of power
Asssuming the venue is north of the midlands. Anyone wanting a break, cup of tea, pee etc,. no charges. pm me fo,r co ordinates.My pleasure Bug.
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CPOP update
Update on fly-in to CPOP. Paperwork should be out v soon to all those registered, it will include the standard indemnity form that everyone needs to sign and forward to their insurer. The site looked great at the triathlon over the weekend -if the weather is anything like it has been this past week then we're in for a treat. Big 'last night of the proms' style concert on the staurday night with fireworks if anyone fancies packing a tent!-----John
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1 week to go
Indemnity form completed Will there be joining instructions soon? Thanks John |
I'm out of the country from tomorrow afternoon (Monday) until late on Friday 16th and with limited email access, so some early info would be useful!
Is anyone interested in meeting up this year - see posts #14 and #23. Any sign of that map John? TTB :ok: |
CPOP
The organisers have been given the pilot's instructions and should be emailing them to those who have obtained PPR.
If you hear anything PM me and I'll try and sort it. |
Sent my form in.....Will there be joining instructions soon?
Kev. |
Joining instructions coming
All paperwork should be with everyone this afternoon (anyone who's indemnity forms have arrived) and they'll be emailed out to anyone else as soon as the indemnity arrives.
The FATO has been mown, the H marked out ...and the pageant pub is expecting Ppruners . The display sequence is: 1130 1145 Black Cats (Lynx Mk8) 1150 1205 Breitling Wingwalkers (Steerman) 1210 1225 R44 1230 1250 1255 1345 MILEX (Challenger 2, 150 man infantry and artillery assault demo) 1350 1410 Tri-Services Comp (AS350) 1415 1425 Strikemaster 1430 1445 SAR demo (Bell 412 RAF Valley SARTU) 1505 1510 Spitfire MK356 Sunday 1150 1205 Breitling Steerman 1210 1225 R44 1230 1250 Falcons Parachute 1255 1345 MILEX 1350 1410 Tri-Services (AS350) 1415 1425 Black Cats (Lynx Mk8) |
Was hoping to fly in to this, but decided to bail given my relative inexperience - maybe next year !
Have a great time. |
Need Money - PM me with your contact details of you're interested in going up with me?
I live in East Berkshire, so could meet you at White Waltham or Wycombe? Or at my home. TTB |
You have pm :ok:
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Sweatshop
Given the display details in your last post, will there be restrictions on times of arrival / departure for private heli's? And many thanks for organising this. TTB - will certainly try to meet up again. My photo at the bottom of this article Transfer pricing and intellectual property if it helps us meet up. Thanks john |
kevin
what day are you going |
MD600
We (Lesley & I) are going on the Saturday Kev. |
pity we could have met up i am looking to go sunday
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MD600
If the day changes due to WX, I'll bob a post here... Kev. |
John R81 - the heliport will be closed to non-display traffic between 1100 and 1530 hours each day.
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Satcop - interesting, as my landing slot time is 11:00.
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