North Denes Closing
 

I heard a rumour that North Denes is closing. Any one else heard anything?

nothing is ever for sure but as far as I am concerned that rumour is just a lot of bunk, there is nothing to support it.

CF

No, midday is too early....usually around 9pm till 5.30 am! :ok:

ND Closing
 

My source must be mis-informed, sorry for any trouble caused.

It's looked closed down for years admittedly!:)

North Denes, Great Yarmouth
 

I understand that North Denes is to close December 2010 with CHC heli ops to transfer to NWI and a new purpose-built hangar. Has any other members heard anything?

Is CHC selling Nth Denes? Afterall, they do own it.

who knows?

Brilliant post Helimutt I genuinely can't tell if you are serious or taking the piss.

Helimutt & Colinhunn

History rewriting itself in No Folk :} then, if zat is true so the next door competition relocates into No Witch :ok: so if predicted Bristows finds itself next door with CHC and not forgetting NHV :):eek:

Looks like NWI airspace gonna get busy and I won't be doing my x country around there at anytime soon :cool:

I have taken his post to be genuine. It concurs both what I have heard and what I would expect.

..............and add Bond from 0610. NWI the ABZ of the SouthEast!!!

In Denes today. This has been discussed for months but no confirmaton. That is not to say it will not happen, and it will not be the last time the guys on the coalface are the last to find out!!!

Hopefully, if it happens their jobs will be safe further along the A47

I can assure you my post was totally tongue in cheek. As stated, the guys at the coalface are always the last to hear! :ok:

Helimut.......tongue in cheek....from you....naye!!!!:ok:

I understand that an article on North Denes is due to appear in tomorrows (11th March) Eastern Daily Press newspaper.:ooh:

Well that is a coincidence! :ok::E

Yarmouth 'could lose heliport'

ANTHONY CARROLL

Last updated: 11/03/2010 05:47:00


A helicopter company which ferries workers from Great Yarmouth to North Sea oil and gas platforms is considering moving its base of operations from the town.

CHC has a fleet of five helicopters at Yarmouth's North Denes heliport, which has been serving the offshore industry for 40 years.

Yesterday the Aberdeen-based company confirmed that it is looking into the possibility of relocating its North Denes base, which operates Augusta Westland 139 and Sikorsky S76 helicopters and has 70 staff.

CHC is asking its offshore customers if they would support the closure and relocation of the heliport's business.

If the response is negative then the plans should be ditched.

The EDP understands that CHC is considering moving its Yarmouth operation to Norwich International Airport because of the costs of building a new run way at North Denes.

Last night Yarmouth Borough Council leader Barry Coleman said his authority was working closely with CHC to try and persuade the company to stay at North Denes.

As well as the ramifications of losing 70 jobs from Yarmouth, it is feared that fewer offshore workers will stay in Yarmouth hotels and guest houses if they land elsewhere in the region.

On average about 30,000 passengers pass through the heliport's terminal to get to the southern part of the North Sea.

Mr Coleman hopes CHC can be persuaded to stay in Yarmouth by pointing out that the town will be at the centre of ambitious plans to expand offshore wind turbines and carbon capture sites.

He said: "It would be big blow if CHC did move.

"The council is working with CHC to try and persuade them that it would be better for them to stay where they are.

"We will be showing them that the long term benefits of staying at North Denes will outweigh any short term financial advantage of relocating."

A spokeswoman from CHC's Aberdeen head offices said: "CHC are looking into the possibility of relocating from North Denes however at this stage no decisions have been made.

"Our priority is to provide the best possible service to our customers and as such we are engaging with them to gain their feedback on any potential move.

"Should any relocation happen in the future, it is our intention that there would be no material changes to existing contracts."

In 2006 CHC, which operates 250 aircraft in 35 countries, started to bring in Augusta Westland 139 helicopters alongside Sikorsky S76s at North Denes.

Ha ha ha. Is that gonna matter?? :E


Big day at CHC today I hear!

Is there room at Norwich? What building would they use? What with NHV there, Bond coming this year, this isn't good news for Bristow?

A new-build hangar has been mentioned which I assume will be part of the new SaxonAir complex, currently under construction.

Course CHC could always open up ND as a proper airfield again. In the late 60s/early 70s there was a thriving flying school with C150s there, and there's always potential for pleasure flying eg to see the seals on Scroby Sands etc.

CHC
 

I cant see either why they cant do up the old Bond terminal and invite one of the other companies to operate from denes. It worked when it was Bond and Bristows there, why not again ?? Get the runway done and as some one said you could have a flying school there, or SAR base ??

North Denes - What is happening
 

Heard rumours that the incumbent at N.Denes is moving out to a new base at norwich. Whats to become of N.Denes and all the people who work there ? Is someone else going to move in or will it be lost forever?

North Denes changing hands
 

North Denes is not closing. CHC are selling it back to Bond. Nice Mr Bond is about to take back the Southern North Sea and not before time. CHC are moving to a new hangar being built at Norwich not that it will do them any good. They will have lost all their contracts before long. I am surprised that they have any left the way they have been carrying on.

Chinesewhispers

HaHa thats a good one have you any proof to back it up? Someone must know facts?

Not sure of the exact timeline (although I think it is Dec 10 or New year 11), but it would appear that CHC are moving to Norwich with all the current contracts, they'll be based at the new Saxonair/Klyne Hanger complex at Norwich.

There are two aspects to this:

1. The major clients of CHC have been bitching like hell for them to operate from an airport which has full hard runway and navigational facilities with the option of H24 ATC cover in the event of an emergency. Additionally, the vast majority of passengers flying out of Denes, fly to Norwich then have to get the train or a taxi to Gt Yarmouth, in a lot of cases it involves an overnight stay at the passengers expense. To date CHC have always go around this but the clients appear to have said enough is enough.

2. The CAA have been threatening CHC with the closure of N Denes for several years now, the main points being the lack of a hard runway and the integrity of the airfield and it's physical and navigational faclilities (anyone ion the industry doesn't need me to tell you what the latter entails).
CHC won't invest in a hard runway at Denes or the other work due to the high costs and it will be cheaper in the long run to operate from Norwich, it's highly likely that they'll keep the current contracts by doing so.

Earlier this year Bond were advertising for pilots and engineers to be based at Norwich and have signed up for hangerage with Skydrift for the aircraft servicing the Wind Turbine Engineering Contract and any other work that comes up.

Why buy an airfield which is inconvenient to the majority of your client base when you can simply move into a fully equipped one at less expense?

This time I do think it's really happening and N Denes will soon become an exercise yard for the Doggy Track next door.

The problem with CHC is that they can't be in the same game if they are in the wrong stadium ! The greyhound / banger track is the wrong venue to compete on a level playing field :ugh: commercial sense dictates a move

North Denes Closure Confirmed
 

The closure was confirmed in the local press last night. CHC Scotia transfering to Norwich International Airport "up the road" at the impressive new Saxonair complex.


Great Yarmouth heliport to close after 40 years - Business - Eastern Daily Press
:ooh:

I wouldn't call a new hangar impressive granted your away from the water treatment plant.
All in its just a hangar!

It IS impressive and is expected to attract alot more biz traffic to NWI. Apparently, will be superior to some biz facilities in the S.E. of England.
Saxonair are a very ambitious company and a big asset to NWI airport. They are funding the building themselves.

So there:=

NIMBYism?
 

From EDP comments:

:rolleyes:

902Jon

Well that's OK, all the NIMBYS who moved in after Norwich Airport started operating can move to North Denes can't they?:rolleyes:

Excellent news for everyone at Saxonair who have been beavering away on this contract for ages, well done Chris and James (and Mr Klyne!):ok:
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Beg to differ it IS just a hangar all be it with fancy clading.
Saxon air is Financed by Kline who made his money in boats.
Just who are they going to attract to Norwich?
If you have real cash why would you want to come Norwich in your biz jet? You certainly cannot say it is convient to London.
The new facility is a rich mans garage for his VERY nice and new Planes/toys.
As a side note the other side has been leased to CHC the repurcussions of their move to Norwich has yet to unfold but their customers are far from happy.

Discuss :ugh:

:confused: London isn't the be-all-and-end-all of the UK. There are other places y'know. Like Norwich. I love the smell of sour grapes in the morning. :}

Cheers

Whirls

Yep your right hang on is that Roman Abramovich's Gulfstream on approach..... oh sorry my mistake its Bernard Mathews in his 20 year old Citation popping in to check on his Turkey Empire......:D

Its the 21st centuary not the 11th .

I asked a valid question What Biz jets is this Impresive facilty going to attract?

im pretty sure it was the CHC customers that were wanting the move to Norwich

North Denes is close to the customers facilates and harbour it can open and close when it likes.

Norwich has limited opening times in comparision also an aggressive anti aircraft lobby which see it as a blight on their house values ,not an asset to the comunity providing jobs.
It is also 25 miles and 40 minutes away which can be considerably longer in summer (A47 and tourists) Not good if you need to get skilled man or part out to rig .
Whats the cost per hour of lost production?

My personal view is that CHC are banking on the SAR contract and couldn't careless about the southern North Sea.

That may apply to Gt Yarmouth but definately not Norwich.

LowFat

The CHC move was actually driven by their customers. If CHC hadn't moved their customers would have - to other providers.



Childish personal attacks removed. :rolleyes: