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manfromuncle 11th Mar 2010 08:14

Is there room at Norwich? What building would they use? What with NHV there, Bond coming this year, this isn't good news for Bristow?

colinhunn 11th Mar 2010 20:56

A new-build hangar has been mentioned which I assume will be part of the new SaxonAir complex, currently under construction.

chevvron 12th Mar 2010 09:49

Course CHC could always open up ND as a proper airfield again. In the late 60s/early 70s there was a thriving flying school with C150s there, and there's always potential for pleasure flying eg to see the seals on Scroby Sands etc.

Oh Silent One 8th Apr 2010 13:24

CHC
 
I cant see either why they cant do up the old Bond terminal and invite one of the other companies to operate from denes. It worked when it was Bond and Bristows there, why not again ?? Get the runway done and as some one said you could have a flying school there, or SAR base ??

bladegrabber 10th Sep 2010 12:03

North Denes - What is happening
 
Heard rumours that the incumbent at N.Denes is moving out to a new base at norwich. Whats to become of N.Denes and all the people who work there ? Is someone else going to move in or will it be lost forever?

Chinesewhispers 12th Sep 2010 11:18

North Denes changing hands
 
North Denes is not closing. CHC are selling it back to Bond. Nice Mr Bond is about to take back the Southern North Sea and not before time. CHC are moving to a new hangar being built at Norwich not that it will do them any good. They will have lost all their contracts before long. I am surprised that they have any left the way they have been carrying on.

bladegrabber 13th Sep 2010 16:42

Chinesewhispers

HaHa thats a good one have you any proof to back it up? Someone must know facts?

goatface 13th Sep 2010 17:36

Not sure of the exact timeline (although I think it is Dec 10 or New year 11), but it would appear that CHC are moving to Norwich with all the current contracts, they'll be based at the new Saxonair/Klyne Hanger complex at Norwich.

There are two aspects to this:

1. The major clients of CHC have been bitching like hell for them to operate from an airport which has full hard runway and navigational facilities with the option of H24 ATC cover in the event of an emergency. Additionally, the vast majority of passengers flying out of Denes, fly to Norwich then have to get the train or a taxi to Gt Yarmouth, in a lot of cases it involves an overnight stay at the passengers expense. To date CHC have always go around this but the clients appear to have said enough is enough.

2. The CAA have been threatening CHC with the closure of N Denes for several years now, the main points being the lack of a hard runway and the integrity of the airfield and it's physical and navigational faclilities (anyone ion the industry doesn't need me to tell you what the latter entails).
CHC won't invest in a hard runway at Denes or the other work due to the high costs and it will be cheaper in the long run to operate from Norwich, it's highly likely that they'll keep the current contracts by doing so.

Earlier this year Bond were advertising for pilots and engineers to be based at Norwich and have signed up for hangerage with Skydrift for the aircraft servicing the Wind Turbine Engineering Contract and any other work that comes up.

Why buy an airfield which is inconvenient to the majority of your client base when you can simply move into a fully equipped one at less expense?

This time I do think it's really happening and N Denes will soon become an exercise yard for the Doggy Track next door.

rufus.t.firefly 13th Sep 2010 17:41

The problem with CHC is that they can't be in the same game if they are in the wrong stadium ! The greyhound / banger track is the wrong venue to compete on a level playing field :ugh: commercial sense dictates a move

colinhunn 9th Nov 2010 12:58

North Denes Closure Confirmed
 
The closure was confirmed in the local press last night. CHC Scotia transfering to Norwich International Airport "up the road" at the impressive new Saxonair complex.


Great Yarmouth heliport to close after 40 years - Business - Eastern Daily Press
:ooh:

lowfat 9th Nov 2010 15:08

I wouldn't call a new hangar impressive granted your away from the water treatment plant.
All in its just a hangar!

colinhunn 9th Nov 2010 16:05

It IS impressive and is expected to attract alot more biz traffic to NWI. Apparently, will be superior to some biz facilities in the S.E. of England.
Saxonair are a very ambitious company and a big asset to NWI airport. They are funding the building themselves.

So there:=

902Jon 9th Nov 2010 17:52

NIMBYism?
 
From EDP comments:


Bad news indeed not only for Great Yarmouth but also for the residents of NE Norwich and surrounding area who already have had enough of these damned cacophonous things flying over.
:rolleyes:

niknak 9th Nov 2010 19:01

902Jon

Well that's OK, all the NIMBYS who moved in after Norwich Airport started operating can move to North Denes can't they?:rolleyes:

Excellent news for everyone at Saxonair who have been beavering away on this contract for ages, well done Chris and James (and Mr Klyne!):ok:
.

lowfat 10th Nov 2010 08:58

Beg to differ it IS just a hangar all be it with fancy clading.
Saxon air is Financed by Kline who made his money in boats.
Just who are they going to attract to Norwich?
If you have real cash why would you want to come Norwich in your biz jet? You certainly cannot say it is convient to London.
The new facility is a rich mans garage for his VERY nice and new Planes/toys.
As a side note the other side has been leased to CHC the repurcussions of their move to Norwich has yet to unfold but their customers are far from happy.

Discuss :ugh:

Whirlygig 10th Nov 2010 13:57


You certainly cannot say it is convient to London.
:confused: London isn't the be-all-and-end-all of the UK. There are other places y'know. Like Norwich. I love the smell of sour grapes in the morning. :}

Cheers

Whirls

lowfat 10th Nov 2010 16:20

Yep your right hang on is that Roman Abramovich's Gulfstream on approach..... oh sorry my mistake its Bernard Mathews in his 20 year old Citation popping in to check on his Turkey Empire......:D

Its the 21st centuary not the 11th .

I asked a valid question What Biz jets is this Impresive facilty going to attract?

ironchefflay 10th Nov 2010 16:45

im pretty sure it was the CHC customers that were wanting the move to Norwich

lowfat 10th Nov 2010 17:25

North Denes is close to the customers facilates and harbour it can open and close when it likes.

Norwich has limited opening times in comparision also an aggressive anti aircraft lobby which see it as a blight on their house values ,not an asset to the comunity providing jobs.
It is also 25 miles and 40 minutes away which can be considerably longer in summer (A47 and tourists) Not good if you need to get skilled man or part out to rig .
Whats the cost per hour of lost production?

My personal view is that CHC are banking on the SAR contract and couldn't careless about the southern North Sea.

niknak 10th Nov 2010 19:48


I'll have you know that 'Naarwich' quite likes the 11th century. Just try driving here up the A11. Then it will be no surprise that the average wage is £13,000 and you can buy a house for £60,000.
That may apply to Gt Yarmouth but definately not Norwich.

LowFat

The CHC move was actually driven by their customers. If CHC hadn't moved their customers would have - to other providers.



Childish personal attacks removed. :rolleyes:


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