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slyguy 29th May 2009 12:01

NHV Norwich, what is the story
 
Ok Chaps,

NHV flying from Norwich , what is the story? how can they operate so much cheaper, how can they, in their words "get more flying done with their crews".

Does the FTL not apply here?

Whats in the rumours they are not allowed to fly in certain parts of europe?

someone must know.

HillerBee 29th May 2009 12:20

FTL does definitely apply. They are a very good company.

Camp Freddie 29th May 2009 19:13


They are a very good company
hillerbee, could you elaborate a bit please, as the above statement tells me nothing :)

CF

helimutt 29th May 2009 19:38

Heard a rumour that they weren't allowed to operate in Denmark anymore. Just as well really, they're so busy here in the UK they have no time for anywhere else!:E

Mozzy 29th May 2009 19:56

"FTL does definitely apply".........

Who's FTL? cant imagine that would be UK CAA FTL requirements

"get more flying done with their crews"............

Would be very interested to know how, as I'm sure they're adhereing to UK CAA regs, operating in UK airspace, being a reputable company operating Med to large twin types in various operations around europe (bar Denmark of course):}

Well, must come down to one pilots definition of a 200ft cloud base is very different from another pilots definition of a 200ft cloud base, very common apparently:ugh:

Ha Ha, just remembered an expression on one particular HLO's face :eek:

Banksman 29th May 2009 22:01

Heard that Perenco were not happy with them!!!!

kmax 29th May 2009 22:33

throwing mud ?
 
Yes they get there helicopters for free and they don't have to pay for there jet A1 and the crews :ugh::ugh::cool:
nobody is happy with them that's why they are growing so fast.
nice thread
please boys this is ridiculous.
they worked for us in Humberside and Cork very nice pilots, flying with very nice N3's

Hopadopter 29th May 2009 23:22

Kmax what type of operations did they support in Cork, was it the gas, and are they using EC155's. Good to see some competition.

helimutt 30th May 2009 08:08

Heard also they get away with flying out of Norwich on bad weather days when wx minima allow departure but not return, as they then nominate an offshore alternate. True or not?? I don't know. Only rumours.
Not surprising to see them parked up at Humberside when weather is sh!te. They supported CHC out of Humberside last year and the pilots seem like a decent bunch and they brought with them a nice shiny N3.

Mach1GTO 30th May 2009 09:05

Well, well, well...
NHV is a fully approved JAR-OPS3 operator, complying with O&G standards. As a Belgian operator with a Belgian AOC, NHV works under Belgian CAA control, so FTL is BCAA approved. NHV is not "banned" from any European or other country, Denmark is merely protecting their own market. All operators NHV works for are happy with their work, if they are not, NHV will strive to solve the problems there might be. As a result of this, you'll soon see yellow NHV EC155's in Norwich as well...:D

nightjar1 30th May 2009 09:40

Yes nice, but can you please explain >>HOW<< this company can operate cheaper ??
Staff costs must be about the same ?
Ferrying the A/C back to main base for maintenance must cost quite a bit ?

Horror box 30th May 2009 09:48

I worked alongside them a couple of years ago, and they seemed like a decent outfit to me. I believe the reason they are not operating in Denmark is simply due to union rules steering away from the use contractors in order to protect jobs and contracts for those in CHC and Dancopter. Certainly nothing untoward, and whilst operating in Denmark, they did a good job, and were held in high regard. I believe they operated there on an ad hoc basis assisting CHC's contractual obligations to fill a shortfall due to lack of aircraft in CHC Denmark during their transition from Puma to S92.

kmax 30th May 2009 10:07

CORK was O&G subcontract for CHC.
Ec 155 in 2010
EC175 in 2012



I heard Perenco is very happy flying with them, that why they have contract now in Norwich
:ok:

HillerBee 30th May 2009 12:45

One of the reasons they might be cheaper is the UK CAA cost, the Belgian CAA would be cheaper. The standards are just as 'high' though. The UK market will be flooded by foreign operators if the CAA keps on raising their cost.

sox6 30th May 2009 15:34

Not sure the Belgian standards are that high as they don't include rules on HUMS.

bladegrabber 30th May 2009 15:48

As an end user of all of the SNS heleicopter operators including NHV I can tell you they arent cheaper but what they do offer is a reliable service which operates to a schedule rather than when the aircraft can be persuaded to fly along with some of the pilots who like to make the rules up as they go along.

As for safety couldnt fault them, try looking at their accident / incident rate compared to the N. Denes operator????

BG

Phil77 30th May 2009 15:49

...is there a remote chance that the unionization within the big operators is responsible for NHV being able to "get more flying done with their crews"?

I don't work in the NS but have many friends working there.
No offense, but to me it is understandable how you could get more work done than working only 13 days/month, 4-5 hours/day (at the airport, not flying) plus vacation and sick leave.

Running for cover...

HillerBee 30th May 2009 15:59

The pilots at NHV are not getting overworked at all!

jcheeverloophole 30th May 2009 16:12

They must be doing something right , picking up work from the UK companies that cant deliver.

NHV seem like a " can do " outfit.

Sounds like they are more content to get on with the job and deliver a good service in line with the general regulations , and not get caught up in the usual UK red tape b******* the operators and customers enforce on themselves - we just can't make things easy.

Mind you they are using some extremely reliable and competent machines
for the job:D

Well done :ok:

Phil77 30th May 2009 16:15


The pilots at NHV are not getting overworked at all!
...and still get the job done, with less cost - my point exactly!

tophelios 31st May 2009 02:46

Very funny to see how people react to a new company, out of the big "three" of the NS ...yes you can do the job despite the fact you're not CHC, Bristow or Bond and you're from Belgium...
They are a lot of things you can manage easely when you're not too "big"...this is the point...:ok:

bladegrabber 31st May 2009 05:58

Tophelius

Im with you "small is big enough"

Its simple their customer focused and there's NO Bulls**t! a bit like Bond used to be when they were that size.

Maybe some of the local pilots should apply for jobs with them at Norwich, they might just enjoy going to work for a change?http://static.pprune.org/images/icons/laugh.gif
BG

Camp Freddie 31st May 2009 08:42

bladegrabber,

obviously you have some grudge against CHC which is affecting the objectivity of your posts and therefore devalues the impact of them as it sounds just like sniping.

so what happened then, how have CHC offended you?

regards

CF

chcoffshore 31st May 2009 08:48

Good luck to NHV and their crews, they have been around a while, and the good thing is they need more pilots!

:ok:

DomDom 31st May 2009 09:16

EC155 Norwich
 
Any confirmation of the 155's delivery this summer ?

HHE 31st May 2009 09:55

Ec155 Nhv
 
NHV will start working for Tullow with 1 EC155 and 1 AS365N3 as of August.

nightjar1 31st May 2009 09:56

What contract (if any) will the 155 be utilised on ?

Any clues to what contracts are up for tender at the moment or what contracts are coming close to tender ? and have NHV tendered for these with N3/155 ?


Thanks HHE
Will a second 155 replace the N3 when its delivered ?

HHE 31st May 2009 10:19

I am not sure but might be possible

Pullharder 31st May 2009 16:35

Hey Bladegrabber...

QUOTE: "Its simple their customer focused and there's NO Bulls**t! a bit like Bond used to be when they were that size."

Yea right, so customer focused they used to tell BP their sole use aircraft was unservicable,pay the small penalty and then rent it out to another customer at much higher ad-hoc rates:= MORE THAN ONCE I can tell you............

Good ol' Bond....just hope NHV don't break the rules Bond used too just "to get the job done":eek:

Can't comment on NHV, only time will tell.....

bladegrabber 31st May 2009 19:43

C-Freddie

Dont bear anyone at CHC a grudge they still fly for us every day just making the point that all their customers know too well and if you want to PM me im happy to show you the performance reports to demonstrate my objectivity.

NHV are a good 3rd option for the SNS and if they maintain the level of service they've shown so far they should do well.

BG

bladegrabber 31st May 2009 19:46

Pullharder

I meant the Bond of the 90's not the recent reincarnation....

As for playing tricks with sole use aircraft im afraid their not the only operator that does it and they usually go to either the highest bidder or he who shouts loudest.

BG

Pullharder 31st May 2009 20:38

Bladegrabber, I WAS talking about the Bond of the 90's too...but a leopard never changes it's spots :eek:................

As for sole use, don't know of one Bristow or CHC event where that has happened....
As I say. Don't know about NHV, they may turn out to be good, or another "get the job done at all costs, no rules, scamming Bond type company":ugh:.....

HillerBee 31st May 2009 21:24

Slyguy


Ok Chaps,

NHV flying from Norwich , what is the story? how can they operate so much cheaper, how can they, in their words "get more flying done with their crews".

Does the FTL not apply here?

Whats in the rumours they are not allowed to fly in certain parts of europe?

someone must know.
What's it to you anyway????

slyguy 1st Jun 2009 08:32

just interested really, didnt think it would cause a stir. I fly offshore with them on a very regular basis, and we have all heard rumours, and they have had a couple of teething issues, so asked the question, as if they worked the same rules.

no problem with them, they are reliable, just wandered what everyone else thought.

he1iaviator 1st Jun 2009 10:11

I remember when Bristow was a company where most people got on and did the best job possible, were enthusiastic, worked on projects such as passenger briefing systems in their own time. It seemed that everyone had tremendous loyalty to the Company and did not limit their activities for the benefit of the Company to those items written in the contract.

Let's hope that the BEAN COUNTERS don't get control of NHV as well! :ugh:

Camp Freddie 3rd Jun 2009 19:51

bladegrabber,


Dont bear anyone at CHC a grudge they still fly for us every day just making the point that all their customers know too well and if you want to PM me im happy to show you the performance reports to demonstrate my objectivity.
I did PM you and I know that at least 1 other person did too, and both of us have recieved nothing.

if you are going to make these statements, it would be nice if you would deliver on them.

please can you let me know when I will be recieving the reports?

regards

CF

ns heli flyer 28th Sep 2009 15:00

NHV Norwich
 
Does anyone have any contact details for NHV at Norwich? Who is the the Chief Pilot/HR to send a resume to. I heard they were hiring but haven't seen any ads.

Thank you for any info.

sox6 28th Sep 2009 15:37

Do they actualy have a contract to fly for anyone in England or is it just ad hoc flying?

Greeny9 28th Sep 2009 15:45

All recruitment done through the HR department in Belgium.
Contact the HR manager:

Mr Karl Willems,
Noordzee Helikopters Vlaanderen
Kalkaertstraat 101
8400 Oostende
Belgium

Yes, they have contracts at Norwich, one EC155 and two AS365N3 on base.

chcoffshore 29th Sep 2009 06:46

So what contracts do they have now and they must be bidding for more...............I believe they have just merged with the high hierarchy of Heli Holland offshore and bought their new EC155. Only heard good things about them. A hungry company doesn’t take their customers for granted!


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