WARNING! tour operators, scam email going around
I got this email yesterday and while reading it there was something dubious about it all.
My name is Dr. Karl Busche and lives in the united kingdom, I want to book for an helicopter tour for my family because,during our stays in your city, we will be going on tours around the town. These are information for our Booking, Preferred Date of Tour: 16th,17th,18th,19th and 20th March 2009 (5days) Time: 1hr in a day (12.00 pm to 1.00 pm) Passengers: 3 1.Dr. Karl Busche-------weigh 130pounds 2.MRS Anneliese Busche {My Wife} weigh 120pounds 3.BURROWS Busche son 16 yrs} weigh 95pounds Mode of Payment: Credit Card(Visa Card). I want you to give me the total expensis for the 4days tour at 1hr per day. Thanks, Dr. Karl Busche So I "googled" this Karl Busche (who seems to be almost dwarf at 130lbs) and found this Beware Helo Operators - NEW SCAM So guy's do not reply to this because then you will most likely get a lot more of similar scam emails |
BURROWS Busche :D
Thanks for letting us know |
Also covered in PPRuNe here :ok:
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I'm gonna make a some fake hotmail address, reply to them and start messing with their heads.... just for fun:E:E:E
Just need a good name for it.... how is ub******[email protected] or [email protected] probably better to pick name of some desert rock in the mid atlantic ocean like [email protected] Im gonna send them email and post it here with their response... see what happens |
Good man rookie, bout time someone started playing back with these wasters.
Can't wait to hear the reply you get:E Dr. Karl Busche-------weigh 130pounds Dave |
I played along and quoted him a price. This is the reply this scammer sent me.
Hi, Greetings and thanks for your kind response, i would like to inform you that i have made some unconfirmed arrangement with a hotel/logistic agent that will book hotel and also handle our traveling arrangement including some other service that will be requested by my family during our stay in the state. In that case, i will send you my credit card to make a total charge of $14,700.00 for your service and that of the Agent, because i don't want to share the details with a third party,beside the agent runs a private Logistic Agency which does not allow him to have a credit card facilities to runs his full payment. So once you are in receipt of credit card,you will charge the amount of ($14,700.00) then you deduct your service deposit $6,200.00 (for four days) and send the balance of ($8,500.00) to the Agent whose information will be forwarded to you once charges are been made and found available in your account. Am also aware there will be a charge for the extra $8,500.00 to be charged so will want you to deduct the figure from the total amount that will be charged from my credit card. I want you to confirm this and get back to me with your Name, Mobile number and Address for my personal documentation. PLEASE CONFIRM IF THIS ARRANGEMENT IS OK AND REPLY PROMPTLY TO ENABLE US PROCEED. Thanks, Dr Karl and Family +4470359 43483 |
A quick google on the phone number shows another site to do with weddings warning of a scam along the same lines.
http://weddingsabroad-destinationwed...er-please.html |
Our ops got this one,and an identical one in a different name. The UK police didn't want to know so we contacted the US credit card company concerned and they contacted the card holder. We then forwarded the two scam e-mails to the two scammers with advice to be slightly more creative next time.
One of them (Busch) had the balls to be indignant and sent a snotty e-mail threatening legal action for defamation! VH |
This scam is on the rounds again, we were contacted just before Christmas, same thing 1 hour per day for 5 days, he would pay 10k up front then we would pay his "agent" 6k, we walked away as there are no phone nembers or email except for hotmail, and he noe proports to be German, however sounds very african to me!
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Have just sent email to '[email protected]' with the latest reply we have received:
"Hello Again, Thanks for your response, i would like to inform you that i have concluded arrangement with hotel/logistic agent that will book hotel and take care of other service that will be requested from my family during the stay in the state. I will send you credit card to deduct the total charges of your service and my logistic agent, because i don't want to share the details with a third party,beside the agent runs a private and does not have a credit card facilities to runs his full payment. So once you are in receipt of credit card,you will charge the amount of ( US$9,578) then you deduct the cost of your service ( US$1,078 ) and send the balance of US$8,500.00 to my logistic agent whose information will be forwarded to you once you charge the credit card. I am also aware that there will extra charges for the credit card, i want you to mention the figure so that i will include it on the total amount that will be charged from my credit card. I want you to confirm this and get back to me with Your Full Name Mobile Number Address for my personal documentation. Regards, Dr Ford Anderson Flat 2-1, 35,Polwarth Street, Glasgow,G129UE, Scotland. United Kingdom. +447035924236" We will see what happens!! |
We've asked "Dr. Anderson" for an initial admin fee of some 160 quid, payable up front by wire transfer or wankers draft. See how long he wants to play ;)
TT |
Same ****, diffrent name
I'm Dr. David Roy from London, I'm writing to get more details and inquiry for a helicopter tour for my family, We'll be having a vacation in your region and will want to go on tour around with good beach/ land scrape views. Please find below booking information for my family of 3, Preferred Date of Tour: 11th, 12th and 13th March 2009 (3days) Time: 1 hour in a day (2.00 pm to 3.00pm) Passengers: 1.Mr. David Roy 2.Mrs. Loyce Roy (My Wife) 3.Charles Roy (My son 14 yrs) Please be informed that my preferred payment mode is via my Credit Card (Visa Card). I'll appreciate it if you can send me a quote the above information I have provided. I anticipate your prompt response. Best regards, Dr. David Roy. |
From London? David Roy sounds a pretty typical English/British name, BUT who calls a holiday a Vacation in this country.....
You would of thought they would do simple things like this and kinda change the story around a bit and come in from a new angle..... Muppets :ugh: Tell him to send a deposit in cheque, cash it and tell him to do one. |
That scam has arrived in Germany, too.... :ugh:
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"I'm Dr. David Roy from London, I'm writing to get more details and inquiry for a helicopter tour for my family, We'll be having a vacation in your region and will want to go on tour around with good beach/ land scrape views."
land scrape?:eek: What an odd request for a vacation flight. Glad I'm not the pilot one this one.:} |
We get exactly the same scam in the yacht broking world. Charter a yacht and pay by credit card!
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Dr. Karl Busche
We just got the same email from "Dr. Busche" asking for helicopter tours, even though we're a floatplane company in Victoria, BC, Canada.:hmm:
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...and I just got the latest mail from IBM saying don't open a mail called "Join The Crew" etc etc
C'mon folks; the scam is pretty inept and easy to see through - do we really need to chain-post in Rotorheads about its progress? TT |
Always 'funny' how someone says, why does a particular thread continue ...
obviously others ARE interested in knowing (nearly 1500 views). To those that are not interested, one has to wonder why you choose to 'click' on the topic in the first place. |
For creative ways of scrambling the brains of these scammers, look at 419 eater.com....There, such gentlemen as Shiver Metimbers lead these scammers a wonderful dance......i've wasted many a happy hour reading these long drawn-out sagas and am astounded at the sheer persistence of these greedy crooks and the lengths they'll go to....the funniest is the "reverse scam" by a "religious charity" which demands they get tattooed in order to be elegible for a share in the annual dispensation of huge cash grants.
great free entertainment! :E |
Another A-hole:
Dear Sir/Madam, My name is Barr, Abelard Hermann, I am presently on a vacation with my family, I want to book for an helicopter tour for my family because,during our stays in your city, we will be going on tours around the town. These are information for our Booking, Preferred Date of Tour: ,17th,18th and 19th march 2009 (3days) Time: 1hr in a day (12.00 pm to 1.00 pm) Passengers: 3 1.Barr Abelard Hermann-------weigh 130pounds 2.MRS Erna Hermann (My Wife) weigh 120pounds 3.Wilhelm Hermann (son 13 yrs) weigh 90pounds Mode of Payment: Credit Card(master Card). I want you to give me the total expenses for the 3days tour at 1hr per day. Thanks, Barr, Abelard Hermann Address: 25 ERIKA _Manbogan hamburg Germany. Fax: +49-1805-48203-91400 |
Yeah Rotorrookie, I totally agree... and he`s a lousy one.
The address doesn't exist and the phone number is a fake service number (way too many numbers). And believe me....Hermann and Erna are out of fassion (my great-grandparents were called that way).:} |
We got that same email too. I was a bit suspicious but you can't exactly turn around to a potential client and ask them what the deal is!
Anyway, played along for a bit after realising it WAS a scam. He asked me for my telephone number, address and name (it's on the bottom of our emails anyway). Put the number of the Met Anti-Fraud Sqaud, their address and the new Met Commissioner's name. He replied back asking why I gave him the number of a police station. Haha. Waste their time. Trying to get 'his' card details to alert whatever credit card company they have stolen it from. I hate those....:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:: mad::mad::mad::mad: |
3 1.Barr Abelard Hermann-------weigh 130pounds They always seem to be dwarf or maybe even hobbits at 130pounds... Maybe we are under attack form "Shire" ???? I'm waiting to see Samwise Gamgee and Frodo here:ugh::ugh: Who is the best to deal with them ****ers? Scotland Yard or Interpol |
No big deal weighing 130 pounds for adult male.
But it won't be Nigerian, but rather Somali or Ethiopian with their skinny tallish physique. Oh I'm so envious of tall skinny guys. So much easier for some flying, especially instructing in Robbies. I came across similar scam about young Greek newly-ordained priests going to Northern Ireland for 'religious training/festival'. Ehm, interesting idea, Greek Orthodox coming over here.. They didn't even try to make the list of the names sound Greek. :ugh: Barr Abelard Hermann? Well, one only needs to go through spam folder to see many creative names as sender.. I stumbled upon that scam eater guy/group in the past, pretty fun. Recommend to have a look. The way the want to 'earn' money off people is just ludicrous. How could anyone consider it serious customers even if they don't realise that it's scam from the first email? They would always shoot back with some crazy audacious scam. Why do people see this topic or reply? Because it's fun. However criminal intentions of the scammers. I miss receiving 'Nigerian letters' from wannabe penpals. |
If anybody wants a loan for flying these guys can help with their expertise.
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Dr Karl Busche. wedding scams look out!
I just received this email. I wouldn't fall for this personally, knew it was a scam immediately but for those who don't-look out! Bad grammar, no specific details and always emailed to "Undisclosed recipients"!
Hi, Hope my email reaches you in good faith. I am looking for an experienced wedding planner who will handle my wedding and arrange dinner for the guest who will be attending the wedding ceremony.Seven will arrive few days before the wedding day. The wedding is expected to hold on the 23rd of May, 2009 and 50-65 guests are expected to attend. As i do not know what the guests might choose for their meals and drinks, i will make a prepayment as initial deposit for this booking via credit card. All checks and balances will be made with you on 22nd of May, 2009 which is the final day of the booking, You are to arrange for a Videography,Music Entertainment,Photography,Officiant/Priest & Church,cake,flowers and the venue.If there is any these items that is beyond your capability,you let us know so that another company can handle it. Get back to me with your response as we don't have much time with us so that we can process our accommodation within the region more convenient for you and us. Best Regards, Dr Karl Busche. Email:[email protected] Yahoo chart ID is [email protected] |
garmin 496 scam ad
I have been searching for a used Garmin 496 for the past week and came across this scam ad on the gumtree website:
Garmin Gpsmap 496 Aviation Auto Gps w 2 batteries (£913) Date posted: Tuesday 20th January | Ad viewed: 62 times Location: London Garmin GPSMAP 496 with two rechargeable Li-Ion Garmin batteries Auto mount Yoke mount Friction mount (bean-bag dashboard mount) Suction cup windshield mount GXM-30A smart antenna and cable with manual for receiving XM Low-profile remote GPS antenna and cable Two small portable antennas (identical, attach directly to unit) Vehicle power cable with speaker Vehicle power cable without speaker AC power adapter USB cable Carrying case Owner’s manuals City Navigator NT CD The vendor then spins a long yarn about being trustworthy (sent a scan of some poor guys passport) and not wanting to accept payment until the GPS is received. The emphasis of his many emails is on transferring cash via moneygram to a friend or relative and then sending the reference number to cheeky chappie tpprove your financial viability. Somehow this reference number is the key to the whole scam and your cash will never reach the intended recipient. |
Yet another scam
Here we go again...
HELLO I want to have a sightseeing with my family to mark my 7th year anniversary of our holy matrimonial wedding with my wife in your country . please calculate your charter rate for 5persons in 3days, the charter rate days start from 21 -23 april 2009,please get back to me as soon as possible for me to finish with other logistic arrangement, Thanks paschal scott +447035979645 |
Its that old fraud again - beware emails from [email protected]
Here we go again...and he's just as light as before
Good day, I am Mr Paul Reeds and i would like to book a scenic flight either by helicopter or plane for my family during our Vacation stay in your city. These are information about our booking. Preferred Date of tour: 11th to 14th August 2010 (4days) Time: 1hr a day (12.00 pm to 1.00 pm) Passengers: 1.Mr. Paul Reeds -------weigh 135pounds 2.Mrs. Emilie Reeds {My Wife} weigh 126pounds 3.Kelvin Reeds son 17 yrs} weigh 94pounds Mode of payment: Credit card. kindly total the cost of the hourly rate for four days and get back to me as soon as possible. Thanks Mr Paul Reeds Address: Budapester Straße 15, 12507 Berlin, Germany |
hummm
Hi there. Can you let me know anymore about this as I had the same e-mail this evening. Many thanks........................
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Apart from its a scam there isn't a great deal more to know.
I think this one is based on the premise of helicopter companies being able to process quite big credit card transactions. He pays you more than you want with someone elses card and then asks you to send some of the extra money he gives you somewhere else or something like that. I am currently playing with one of the scam helicopter salesmen and will post the details on here in full when I've got as far as I can. |
good to know many thanks,,
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As if by Magic I've just had the very same email to my Griffin email Address.
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Join the club. I've had it twice. Perhaps they thought it'd be more convincing the second time round.....
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its made it to NZ as well.
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Had the same e-mails in New Zealand
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A new name, the same old game
From: [email protected]
Hello, I'm Mr. Jim Graham,i want to book for a VIP air charter service from the 17th to 20th of August 2010. for me and some friends, during our visit in your country. There will be only 6 passengers(adults). Please let me know the whole miscellaneous routing services also tour packages and your VIP Terminal charter service. Payment will be made through my master credit card, kindly confirm if have a credit card machine(pos) to take our booking fees. Thanks, Mr. Jim Graham |
I had "David Winchester" a while ago, who wanted to book the "best scenic flight" for 14 co-workers. He emphasized several times that he works on "an OIL RIG" [sic] and can't be contacted by phone, only email.
Same deal though, "please charge my card for an extra $5,000 and send the cash to some "agent" who doesn't have a credit card machine" ...right. I like this reverse scam: The Road to the Skeleton Coast They make one of these scammers and half his family travel all along the African west coast and move heaven and earth, trying to recover a suitcase full of money that is supposedly floating just off the coast... |
its endless
This stuff is rampant in every industry. I fly for Air Methods. I also own a brewery, restaurant and pizzeria. So, a few months ago I recieved a similar e-mail requesting 100 pizzas (no kidding) for a birthday party for a guys kid. He assured me in the e-mail that he would send a van to pick up the pizzas and sodas and deliver them to to party. 100 pizzas! Do you know how long it would take to make 100 pizzas? And how would you transport them in a truck and keep them warm? We laughed and laughed about this. We had alot of fun calculating the times etc. It would take my pizzeria almost 7 hours to produce the pies. Anyway, it was the same scam with the credit card charges etc. Very funny. It is comical how these guys take any idea and stretch it out to fit into any industry. Somebody must fall for it or they wouldn't waste the time. I recognized this for what is was immediately but e-mailed him back and he actually responded a couple of times hoping he might get me. My business is located near Madison, Wisconsin and he was going to have the pizza picked up and delivered to the party via heated truck in ... Denver, Colorado! Nigerian scam. Cheers www.thegrumpytroll.com
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