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RVDT 13th Aug 2008 02:34

Triple 6,

And da number of ho's versus da pimps?

There is a pimp union as well as a ho union.

666 advo 14th Aug 2008 11:45

man, us hos gotta stick together!

666 advo 20th Aug 2008 04:06

Rumour that some have been offered positions, but have knocked them back based on pay? Anyone heard what the offer was or received one?

gulliBell 20th Aug 2008 06:09

As far as I know they are still going through the short-listing process.

integrity 21st Aug 2008 03:49

If you want to see what a company is really like - look at the base pilots not the touring ones. Touring guys only see a fraction of what management etc is like, ask yourself why HA have lost 13 qualified Helitak pilots in 3 seasons? The boat has a leak!

dodgy1 21st Aug 2008 04:14

Integrity,
Yes i believe you are correct about the Perth pilot movements and the cheif pilot has also up and left so you would have to be a little suspicous.
But have a look at the KA MPT operation, their hasnt been anybody leave for almost a year now, they are probably just holding on for the new EC145's coming?? Quite a big carrrot but as stated previously on this thread, they won't hold onto them too long if the current wage offer and conditions are not improved at least to current industry standard.

I see they have advertised for Bk117 or EC145 touring pilots with min 3 renewals and 500hr multi command, anybody enquired about this?

Last i heard the guys at KA currently weren't going to recieve much of a increase after the 145 endorsement...will be interested to see how many apply and then how many take a position...just like the 139's

gulliBell 21st Aug 2008 06:48

Perth pilot movements at HA maybe somewhat to do with the nature of the job, there can be alot of sitting around during the fire season and not much flying. The young guys in those jobs are likely to want more flying and less sitting around, or find a better avenue onto twins elsewhere. Plus the pay on offer (about the mid $70k point) is not so appealing considering the pay and opportunities for advancement found elsewhere.

TukTuk BoomBoom 21st Aug 2008 19:22

yeah except a certain managment individual (C.A.) has driven away more pilots than you could shake a stick at.
For some reason HNZ keep him on, what a liability.

Harry76 22nd Aug 2008 00:22

TTBB, What exactly is C.A.'s job in management these days? I knew him when he was the CP. They say, 'time wounds all heels'. Apparently not yet in this case.

integrity 22nd Aug 2008 06:51

Seems that guy has the same affect on everyone. I know of engineers and admin staff who have also left because of him. Amazing how some guys just spin the B.S. to the right people and hang in there. I think he got sacked from Bristow a few years back!

slowlane 22nd Aug 2008 12:27

integrity,

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Bol-kowboy 22nd Aug 2008 12:32

for all charlie alpha's faults i think you may find that without him, HA would be a back yard operator flying around in busted arse old jetties.

HNZ see the need for him, hence he is still there.

Honestly, he is worth the collateral damage.

And yes I have been on the receiving end of more than one of his hissy fits.

TukTuk BoomBoom 22nd Aug 2008 13:11

Youre right he is very good at the bullsh.t that goes with getting contracts but he is the absolute worst person i have ever had to deal with in aviation. No question
Never worked with anyone so bipolar with a medical.

slowlane 22nd Aug 2008 23:00


Originally Posted by TukTuk BoomBoom
Never worked with anyone so bipolar with a medical.

So you are a doctor as well? :=

Brian Abraham 23rd Aug 2008 06:13


Never worked with anyone so bipolar with a medical
Some may very well consider such a statement to be libellous. It’s interesting to see the labels that get put on people because they don’t measure up to some personally imposed criteria. I have no idea who CA is, but if his skill lies in getting the contracts to keep bread on the table for a heap of folk, should you not be grateful? Sure, we all have facets to our personality that others may find grating, eccentric, humorous, revolting, etc etc. That’s the nature of the world, and that’s why you marry girl X, and I girl Y. Rather than debasing a persons reputation with inflammatory language, how about a simple example of why you found it difficult to get along with the individual. Often difficulties in relationships lie within ourselves, and not the other. All of us can find people who will,for one reason or another, speak ill of us, whether it be well founded or not.

integrity 23rd Aug 2008 07:25

True Brian, that may well be a libellous statement from TTBB re C.A., however, given that this is generally an anonymous forum, it is a mute point. More to the point though is the fact that TTBB seems to actually work with this guy. And nothing gets to know a person more than working with them in the long and stressfull arena of helicopters. I don't think any of us are participating to purposefully bag others, God knows there is enough of that goes on in the crew room and cockpit. However, C.A.'s reputation well and truely preceeds him, and if this post helps just one person not go down the road of getting involved with him only to be crucified by his "bipolar" side, then the forum has surely worked.

It's hard enough to have an enjoyable, satisfying (let alone lucrative) career in this game without constantly running into more A**holes, so I for one enjoy and appreciate reading the 'heads-up' on potential black-holes. So, thanks TTBB, we have all seen one more little red-flag to be aware of.

More strenght to those with the guts to free speak. :D

TukTuk BoomBoom 23rd Aug 2008 13:08

Yup thats what this forum is all about, getting a heads up on the industry we all work in.
If you didnt take note of other peoples experiences we'd all end up working somewhere like Abu Dhabi Aviation.

Old Brian there hasnt got a clue who hes talking about, maybe you should stick to the nitting forum mate.
What we are doing here is pretty much a written version of what we talk about at the pub.
Do you go around telling people off in the pub Brian for having an opinion about the people they work with?
Would you like to know something other than what you can read on the flash webpage of a company when you are trying to get a job with them?
Seems like thats what this thread is all about
Im not bagging the tea boy either, this guy is someone all the new guys will have to deal with.
They dont have to have the same opinion about the guy i do but they need to know a bit of background.

As for the "got fired from Bristow", thats what i understood as well and then went on to sue them. Apparently also booted from Vietnam according to Rudy.

Big Tip...He will threaten to take you to court over the most minor allegations...Be warned.

bladebanger 23rd Aug 2008 14:43

Classic
 
TUKTUK BoomBoom

That was a classic statment about the nitting forum. And is a true statment for Brian.
CV is a pain to work with, and yes he was sacked from Bristow. The only pilot every to be sacked in Australia by Bristow I am told.

Banger

gulliBell 23rd Aug 2008 20:29

No, it's well known that Bristow have sacked others. Notably two senior pilots in particular who ended up being re-instated with back-pay after a 2 year process, assisted by Industrial representation. So CA isn't the only one.

Brian Abraham 24th Aug 2008 01:13


however, given that this is generally an anonymous forum, it is a mute point
Not a moot point at all I'm afraid. Because you post under a nom de plume does not grant you immunity, as some posters have found to their regret, including at least one Australian who was obliged to publish a letter of apology on Pprune. Pprune administration will give your details upon legal request and you are easily traced.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a heads up, just be careful of the terms in which you couch the advice, and be sure it is objective rather than a rant.
Thanks for the advice on knitting. When are you young pups going to learn to spell, hope you pay more attention to detail in your flying.


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