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Agaricus bisporus 29th Mar 2008 18:26

According to the report I read he'd already done the same thing on a previous occasion - and yet the judge still said he'd get "years", not months if it were "proved" he'd done it deliberately. Ha!

As it was he got off scot-free as far as I can tell.

Good to see the judicial system doing its job then. Respect!!!!

Perhaps this &anker's identity should be made common knowledge amongst helo pilots and their opinions made direct?

500 Fan 29th Mar 2008 19:31

Banker?
 
Banker? I think they they mis-spelt that. More like wan%er!

Senior Pilot 29th Mar 2008 19:35

I'd suggest that the defendant was very lucky in his court appearance, bearing in mind the Judge that he could have got at Snaresbrook Crown Court :p

A last minute plea of guilty may have helped, of course :rolleyes:

FairWeatherFlyer 25th Apr 2008 15:13

Front page of the local borough's newspaper, Eastendlife, more news from Snaresbrook Crown Court about green laser pointers (including snippet at end about a successful appeal from the aforementioned):

Tower Hamlets News:


Laser put police chopper in peril

21/04/08

Shalina Hussain

THE aircrew of a police helicopter were forced to send out a distress call after two yobs shone a blinding laser pen into their cockpit.

Ifikitar Hussain, 21, and Dulal Miah, 19, repeatedly flashed strobes of luminous green light at the aircraft as it hovered over Whitechapel.

Snaresbrook Crown Court was shown footage of Hussain and charity worker Miah from the helicopter’s thermal imaging camera as they ran through the streets of Whitechapel pointing the pen skyward.

The court heard on April 15 how a police helicopter was on night patrol over the Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel Road, on January 12 this year, when Hussain and Miah shone the laser.
During the video recording the aircrew from the helicopter can be heard sending the distress call to squad cars on the ground.

The police airmen asked officers to deal with Hussain and Miah while the helicopter was manoeuvred away from the laser beam, but still continued to track the duo from the sky to help with their capture.

When Hussain and Miah were cornered by squad cars, one of the pair tossed the laser pen over a fence into a grassed area before they were arrested.

Hussain and Miah of Trahorn Close, Whitechapel admitted recklessly acting in a manner likely to endanger an aircraft or any person therein.

Judge Tudor Owen said he wanted to hear from the pilot how much danger the aircraft was in and adjourned sentencing until May 12. But he warned both defendants that they could be jailed.
Hussain and Miah were both remanded on conditional bail and ordered to comply with night-time curfews.

The case comes just weeks after city banker Aldous Voice was given a custodial sentence, which was later quashed, for flashing a high-powered torch at a helicopter which could have caused it to crash.

Voice, 31, admitted shining the five-million-candle lamp from his kitchen window as the aircraft came in to land on top of a building in the Isle of Dogs on October 24, 2006.

Hover Bovver 25th Apr 2008 15:18

Interesting Judge on that case too :ok:

Helinut 25th Apr 2008 20:06

FWF,

with that judge hearing the case, anyone before him should be very wary about trying to pull the wool.............

Freewheel 28th Apr 2008 00:09

I'm sure his honour will consider the evidence before him with due respect to all the relevant circumstances.


Then I'd like to see him order the mob to hang 'em high......

Bronx 3rd May 2008 08:09


including snippet at end about a successful appeal
Found it.

News story

Good old Google. :ok:

HeliCraig 8th May 2008 09:25

Another Arrest for l@zer Shone at Police ASU
 
BBC are reporting that an arrest has been made following the shining of a l@zer into the eyes of the pilot of the Lancs Police ASU.

BBC NEWS | England | Lancashire | Arrest after laser shone at pilot

Be interested to know what the "evasive action" referred to was?

HC.

Heli Teli 8th May 2008 10:49

I recon that the evasive action was to give up on the car and direct ground peeps to the chap concerned.
:D

At least they got him,:ok: another job well done!

Droopy 8th May 2008 13:08

Something fishy here...a laser pen in East Lancs? I think not. Magic lantern, maybe....

helicfii 9th May 2008 04:41

somewhat interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasers_and_aviation_safety :{

VfrpilotPB/2 9th May 2008 05:46

They ran a story about this on Radio Lancashire yesterday afternoon, the lady reporter made it sound as if the occupants of the car had shone the laser at the ASU,..... well if they did, then surely the MOD should be asking could they teach this new skill, .....more like to have come from some terraced abode in downtown Nelson... were the bloods use such implements to test the strength of the eyes of new gang recruits;)

Peter R-B

Blind Pugh 16th May 2008 09:07

L@zer conviction at last
 
News and photo gallery of UK courts, court and professional disciplinary cases

At Snaresbrook Crown Court yesterday two defendants were sentenced to six months imprisonment for recklessly endangering the safety of an aircraft in flight by persistently shining a powerful green l@zer into the cockpit of a Met Police helicopter. The incident was captured on police video and the defendants had previously pleaded guilty. In his summing up the judge said let the message go out that people tempted to target helicopters in this idiotic and dangerous way should expect to receive custodial sentences.

Hopefully this will set a precedent for future cases....

:D

Heli-phile 16th May 2008 10:30

Ditto that in Australia
 
Exact same incidents have occured in Austalia and idiots were convicted last week. Green Lasers are now being banned.

sss 16th May 2008 10:33

i like the picture they use in that article, i guess the met have got rid of the ec145's :}

B.U.D.G.I.E 16th May 2008 10:42

result
 
At last:ok:

Bravo73 16th May 2008 10:45

Snaresbrook, eh?

I wonder who the Judge was... :E

VfrpilotPB/2 16th May 2008 15:15

Hey Tude, er, sorry your eminence,

Come up here onto the Northern Circuit, loads of baddies need your iron hand to clamp their scrote and squeeze, we will all put up with the screams!:eek:

Peter R-B:D

Legalapproach 16th May 2008 17:09

Pair jailed for l@zer attack on helicopter
 
At Snaresbrook Crown Court on the 15th May HH Judge Tudor Owen sentenced ech of two defendants who had pleaded guilty to recklessly endangering the safety of an aircraft by shining a green l@zer light into the cockpit of a police helicopter to 6 months imprisonment

Captain Brian Baldwin, Chief Pilot of the Metropolitan Police Air Support Unit since 1997 told the court that the frequency of l@zers being used against their helicopters is doubling each year so that there are now up to 15 incidents each month. In his opinion the increase in recent years is in direct proportion to the reduction in size, cost and increase in availability of such devices. He described the effect of shining such a device into the cockpit of a helicopter at night and gave his opinion that “..it is only through chance that we have not had a serious incident or accident from the increasing incidence of l@zer lights being used against police helicopters”.

Judge Owen told the two men


“The potentially catastrophic consequences of endangering an aircraft in flight are so obvious they do not need to be spelled out and when an aircraft is flying over a densely populated area the consequences may be even more serious.

As frequently seen in cases before this and other courts, police helicopters do invaluable work protecting the community and combating crime. That includes, for example, searching for and helping to apprehend suspects, assisting with firearms incidents, public order incidents and counter terrorism operations. The crews are entitled to be protected from the likes of you who are, as I have said, a dangerous menace. The message should go out that people who target helicopters in this idiotic and dangerous way should expect to receive custodial sentences.”

212man 16th May 2008 17:20

I wonder how many judges have their own on line fan club? :ok:

VfrpilotPB/2 17th May 2008 11:38

I wonder if Cherry(Blair)or Booth, will ever make the same sort of comment that FL has just meted out to the bad guys?

Peter R-B
Vfrpilotpb:ok:

Heli-phile 18th May 2008 22:34

Thats More Like It!!
 
$250,000:D
FINE, NOW THAT WOULD SOON HAVE THE LITTLE SCROATS PARENTS SORTING OUT THE ISSUE PRONTO!!:ok:

BigMike 18th Jun 2008 23:05

You can run... Teen charged over l@zer attack.
 
Man charged over l@zer attack on chopper
06:13 AEST Thu Jun 19 2008
2 hours 48 minutes ago

A teen has been charged after a police helicopter was targeted with a l@zer on a flight over Sydney's northwest, authorities say.

The helicopter was flying over Bella Vista at about 500 metres at 6pm (AEST) on Wednesday when its crew was allegedly targeted with a green l@zer beam.

The crew discovered the l@zer was being shone from the yard of a house in Eastbourne Way and landed the chopper nearby, police said.

A 19-year-old man was arrested at the house, with police allegedly seizing a green l@zer device.

He was taken to Castle Hill Police Station where he was interviewed and later charged with interfering with a crew member while in an aircraft.

He was given bail and is due to appear at Hornsby Local Court on July 22.

Although the officers were uninjured they were momentarily disorientated by the incident, police said.

Police are urging anyone who sees l@zers being shone at aircraft and vehicles to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

topendtorque 19th Jun 2008 19:12

Good job,
an automatic chin mounted "shoot back down the line" with a 50 cal would be much better.

Captain_djaffar 19th Jun 2008 19:34

Aren't the police helicopters in aussie equipped with M60D 7.62mm or some kind of laser guided projectiles?
:E:E:E:E
Bandit @ 9,engage!!:E

;)

BigMike 22nd Jun 2008 03:44

they don't learn...
 
Man held over laser attack on chopper
08:10 AEST Sun Jun 22 2008
5 hours 27 minutes ago

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2007/...laser_9_lg.jpg
An aircraft shows a laser attack from a Sydney suburb. (Nine)


"A man has been arrested after allegedly targeting a police helicopter with a laser pointer.

The Polair crew were hit with the green laser light at 10.15pm (AEST) Saturday as they conducted routine patrols of the Colyton area, in western Sydney.

A 29-year-old man was arrested at a unit block on Carpenter St, Colyton, after the helicopter crew were able to pinpoint the source of the laser.

Police seized a green laser pointer from the unit.

The man has been interviewed by Penrith police, but has been released pending further investigations. He has yet to be charged.

The laser attack follows another incident in south-west Sydney on Thursday night, when an 18-year-old man was arrested for shining a laser light at officers driving on Carlton Avenue in Chipping Norton."


They need to start charging these clowns under the terrorism laws and throwing them in jail for a few years, then they might start waking up to the idea that it's not so clever to do this.

BigMike 22nd Jun 2008 04:05

This may be the answer...
 
Sydney Police may need to look to the folks across the ditch for some new ideas...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a3/Micksphotos/CG.jpg

cptjim 26th Jun 2008 14:24

Even in the photo he looks like a gormless idiot! :mad:!!

Justice is served! :D

bolkow 26th Jun 2008 15:21

Gormless is the exact word that came to my mind when I viewed his pic.

Bravo73 26th Jun 2008 15:49

There's a new home for all of these laser and/or spotlight threads:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/rotorhe...elicopter.html



:E

Mel Effluent 26th Jun 2008 20:56

More details here from the Telegraph:

Jail for householder Dean Bottomley who shone laser pen at police helicopter - Telegraph

and an interesting description of him from his barrister:

As he began his sentence it emerged that two months before the incident he had been arrested after a police pursuit involving the same helicopter.

However, his barrister, Caroline Patrick, said he denied targeting the aircraft as an act of revenge.

She described Bottomley as an immature young man with "significant deficits in his thinking".

Legalapproach 4th Sep 2008 16:58

Prison sentence upheld for l@zer louts
 
Some of you may recall a recent thread concerning two oafs who had targeted a l@zer pen at a police helicopter. They came before HH Judge Owen at Snaresbrook Crown Court who sentenced them to six months custody.

The Court of Appeal recently considered their appeals and dismissed them observing that in the view of their Lordships the case clearly crossed the custody threshold and such a case could not be dealt with by any lesser penalty.

The court further observed that His Honour Judge Owen "plainly took a great deal of care over this case." In passing sentence the learned judge said the message should go out that people who target helicopters in this idiotic and dangerous way should expect to receive custodial sentences.

"Few cases of this sort come before the court, in part because it is often difficult to apprehend those on the ground. In our judgment the learned judge was right to make it clear that custodial sentences will usually follow when offenders committing this offence are caught."

helimutt 4th Sep 2008 17:17

Good on TO to sentence them for 6 months, but as we all know, they'll maybe do a month, possibly 2 at the most. Sky TV, 3 squares, Playstation, phone calls, ( 'uman rights you know!).
Some of these muppets know they are better off inside than out.

HeliCraig 5th Sep 2008 03:43

Excellent work by TO - and seems the Court Of Appeal also think so.

I do miss his very informative posts though!!

unstable load 5th Sep 2008 13:59

Well done, Your Honour!!

TOT 26th Sep 2008 02:00

l@zer, - seems a bit harsh
 
l@zer man jailed for endangering plane - News - Manchester Evening News

Jim Dean 26th Sep 2008 03:33

Interestingly, while reading this thread the google adds on the right hand side that pprune allows to pop up (or at least I presume it's pprune) offered 4 different sites to buy lasers, including "the most powerful available, will burn plastic"!!!!!! Pprune's not running a sideline are they??:confused:

timex 27th Sep 2008 15:17

Not harsh at all if you've ever been in an Aircraft that was targetted..

RCG 30th Sep 2008 21:34

Hot off the press in NZ
 
3 News > Video > National > Eagle hunts down man accused of shining laser at pilot


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