Informal heli nights UK (including arrangements)
 

If anyone is up for coming to some evenings arranged around the uk (obviously depends on numbers of people and locations etc) maybe you cold put your name below and where you are based/where you are prepared to travel to. Hope VeeAny will step in to help out here possibly too.
Anyone else interested?

Plan is heli pilots of all experience ie FI's/PPL/CPL/ATPL/people thinking about it etc etc. No pressure. Few beers. Discussions on all aspects including safety and experiences.


Helimutt-N.Lincs/Yorkshire/Newcastle

Sounds good to me. :ok:

Whirlybird - Derbyshire/Notts/Staffs/Leics/South Yorks

Yep im up for that!

Essex, Kent, Herts.

Flash

Yep, count me in please............Newcastle, Yorkshire, Southern Scotland.

Helimutt, Newcastle Aero Club Bar or Wings as it now is, sounds the perfect venue........but then I would say that as I only live 5 minutes away!

East Yorkshire for me...

Very interested

Lord Mount- London, Essex, Herts, Kent.

Excellent idea! When I went to Phil Croucher's CRM course, everyone gained something by just chatting to another pilot with different experiences!

Whirls - Norfolk/Suffolk/Cambridgeshire/South Lincs/Beds (at a push!!)

Cheers

Whirls

Sounds great... Count me in.

Monkey,

Devon

Love to, but it may take some time.......:{

Hi Guys & Gals

I'd definitely be interested in getting together (depending on location)

I am located around Buckinghamshire but will travel within reason.

PR

Yes, and me.

Derbyshire/Staffs/Notts/S Yorks/Leics

Lincs/Notts :)

Very good idea

Kent, Surrey, London, Essex

Duncan

Did someone mention beer:ok:!!!

Kent/Sussex/London/Essex

SF

Sounds good to me, I'll be up for that!:ok:

MOTS

South west

Absolutely - Wycombe, Gatwick or Prestwick!

phil

The problem will be finding a venue that will be able to handle all the ego's :p

Don't worry love, if I'm around I'll deflate some egos so they can all get in! :}

Cheers

Whirls

i would suggest no caa ....by the time they have made you fill in the entry forms in triplicate and insisted on a bi annual beer mug test...and made sure all participants are current in the art of mopping any spillage and got a licence for the carriage of alcohol signed off ...we will all have gone home.
Then of course you will have to worry about your duty hours if this is "work" ..not to mention getting the bar licenced for more than 6 sit downs in the day . As you can see i do not believed that increased beaurocracy equals increased safety. What we need is experienced pilots offering advice and not a bunch of desk jockeys. North Yorks.

as I already said. totally informal nights. The only thing making it an official safety night would do was scare people off. Lets keep it in a bar or similar. over beers or similar. :p only heli pilots or people with a direct interest ie student pilots (not press!!)
Hopefully all types of different experience levels.
Looks like we might be able to arrange a few meets so far. :ok:

Helimut,

Don't want to step on anyones toes but would you like me to check out if Wings are happy to accommodate us or are you happy to look into it yourself?

K77.

Eastern Bloc
 

Sounds like there would need to be a few regional Social Secretaries to organise such get-togethers so I am happy to co-ordinate any from East Anglia.

Cheers

Whirls

Count me in

Herts Essex Beds Southeast, East Anglia

Mr blue

k77, thanks for the offer. I think just a call to them to see if certain places are open for a few people to turn up.I think even if only 5 people turn up it would be worthwhile. As I said, no need to make these official. lets wait and see if more people are interested then Whirlygig has a good idea. I'm happy to turn up pretty much at shortish notice.

Excellent idea!

Count me in +2, London, South East, Home Counties.:)

....not a nerd "noggin and natter" but a PPRUNE "pint and prattle" :}

Maybe a good ol' Norfolk mardle eh Bertram? :ok:

Cheers

Whirls

Helimutt.

Good idea.

I think Wings is actually owned by Northumbria Helicopters now, was planning to speak to them anyway as the North East Lotus Exige Owners are planning to meet there once a month.

Count me in!
 

Sounds great idea!

(Currently nr Heathrow, shortly East Mids)

Yorkshire/Humber venue
 

Positioned at A1M/M1 link split - Garforth
Will confirm with the boss but would like to provisionally offer up the use of our premises for informal cag.
We could use the boardroom - which happens to house a bar and snooker table - and overstuffed Chesterfields...............plus the fact that, unlike a flying club, you know who is listening in!!
ideal surroundings - relaxed atmosphere.
Just thought it would be handy for M62/M1/A1 corridor ppruners.
Company H only available to company chopper but probably a good night not to be flying!
Handy transport links etc etc
And if you're interested in motorsport could throw in a tour of the factory blah

EESDL

EESDL, great idea for the first meet then, thanks. Lets work on that one first if you like, then K77 can look into the Newcastle one. Lets see who can make it for EESDL's suggestion. I'll probably be available for both as long as their not on the same night and I don't have an early start the next morning.!:E

Helimutt

Thanks for the invite.

I will happily be involved, spoken to a few people today who are interested in lending experience to the evenings, and I have a few ideas of things that could be organised but not necessarily how to pull them off.

I would try and get to as many of them as possible.

My mention of the CAA on the other thread was primarily to do with material as they didn't really have anyone in safety promotion who knew anything about helicopters.

If you wish PM me a way to contact you as I have some ideas which need discussing with someone to see if they would work.

I also believe that we should promote these evenings through whatever means possible on other Forums, and at flying schools etc. Yes the initial idea started here, but as a potential huge bonus to flight safety we should try and get the message across to as many pilots as possible.

No idea where but would suggest Exeter or somewhere nearby as a good venue for the South West, drivable from Cornwall, Dunkeswell and Bristol all within an hour or so.


Cheers


Gary

Is there anywhere near/at East Midlands Airport? Because that's almost on the M1, and would be good for the East Mids etc contingent? South Yorks (Sheffield?) also sounds like it would work for quite a few people. I can't think of anywhere specifically at the moment.

only heli pilots or people with a direct interest ie student pilots (not press!!)

But there are others too who surely could learn from these meetings. Those working in ATC, or airfield operations for example. I'm certain that I'd learn things that I'm not aware of, and there's a possibility of those being able to contribute too as well as listen. I appreciate the original idea is primarily for aircrew, and I wouldn't want that diluted, but there are others with direct interests that may not fly, and could find them useful.
I'd like to attend one, if work patterns allow, and if it thought appropriate.
js in ATC
N.Notts

Always up for few beers!!

London or N Essex

never too old to learn ... something
 

The more events the better
Lincoln .............From Humberside to Sheffield

Sounds good, would be interested.

Craig

Northants, London.

If Whirlygig and Paco are going it must be a good gig so count me in. :ok:

Based around Luton.

EESDL,

Sounds good............and I run a Lotus Exige Series 1 so i'd also be interested in the Motorsport offer too.

Will checkout 'Wings' for us more north eastern chaps too!

I too am up for this. It's a great idea. West Midlands is best for me.

A couple of words of caution however, based upon my own relatively brief (20+ years) in aviation:

1. Broadly speaking, the sort of person that is going to make space in their diary to attend and hopefully benefit from such a 'safety' gathering is also, in my opinion, likely to partake in other safety-related practices. Be that bed-time reading of AAIB bulletins or stumping up a few hundred quid to fly with an instructor for refresher/advanced training on a regular basis. To some degree therefore, I believe these evenings would be 'preaching to the converted'.

2. All the 'war stories' in the world won't stop the same mistakes being repeated time and time again. There is no substitute for experience, and as a PPL(H), one can only truly, and safely, broaden ones' personal flight envelope by flying with someone with significantly more experience and the ability to impart their knowledge effectively. Just flying with your instructor does not necessarily cut it; he may have a few thousand hours but if they are all spent in the circuit or local flying area in an R22/H269 it doesn't count for a great deal. There are numerous highly-experienced instructors in the UK that fit the bill but they tend to be a little more costly than your average flying school FI - but it's usually money very well spent.

3. The best training and best equipment still count for nothing when a pilot makes a conscious (or sub-conscious) decision to fly/continue to fly when all the evidence is pointing to it being a bad idea.

I'll see some of you soon at one the venues I hope.

John Jackson