Originally Posted by hargreaves99
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The Cabri is easier to auto than the R22, for sure.
But in reality I would rather have more power. It's virtually impossible to teach a vertical takeoff in a Cabri unless you are both 7 stone, have 10 litres fuel on board and have 25 knots of wind. If you know what I mean. You want to auto down on a pillow though, the Enstrom is the way to go! It was so smooth I thought it was just another power on running landing! |
Hargreaves
Should start using a Hu 269 then. Did a PC on a 17 stone customer ( I am 15 .5 stone ) with 2 hours of fuel and we were doing vertical landings and take offs on Friday with 1' of Map still available ! |
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Don't forget about the 10% horse power increase for use as 5 min takeoff that was recently approved.
https://www.verticalmag.com/press-re...2-gets-better/ |
Originally Posted by nocarsgo
(Post 9978739)
Don't forget about the 10% horse power increase for use as 5 min takeoff that was recently approved.
https://www.verticalmag.com/press-re...2-gets-better/ Steady as she goes eh. Start out conservative and if nothing breaks boost it a bit more and so on. Bit more horsepower increase left in the Lyc 360. I note when Schweizer derated the 300C back about 10 horsepower and came out with the 300CB that many component life's were dramatically increased. Interesting that there is apparently no component life decrease mentioned in the article. To me that backs up the conservative start approach of Gumball with their G2. . |
Power upgrade approved in all operating countries
Binghi, yes seems like it, makes sense being a relatively new and small company.
On related note, Canada just got the power increase approved so now every country the Cabri is certified, can enjoy the additional power. https://www.facebook.com/FlyCabri/ |
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22 JAN 18 / St. Louis Downtown Airport Instructor an student with minor injuries( energy absorbing structure and crashworthy seats ! :ok:) |
Originally Posted by HeliHenri
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22 JAN 18 / St. Louis Downtown Airport Instructor an student with minor injuries( energy absorbing structure and crashworthy seats ! :ok:) |
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My guess,
A finely developed auto, but with sideways speed on touch down = low impact rollover. Is that the tail rotor shaft snaking its way out of the tail? Despite being technically strong, the composite tail look so weak once broken. |
As with any flight, from time to time things do tend to go wrong and we're just very fortunate in this instance both passengers have come out with no injuries. There should be some form of qualification required before someone is allowed to provide quotes to the media. :rolleyes: |
" ......both passengers have come out with no injuries."
That'll be why it crashed. If they were both passengers, no one could have been flying it! |
Trainers seem to crash a lot. Doesn't seem to matter who makes them. Glad everyone walked away.
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thats whats called a full down kiwi auto!
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35 G2 produced in 2017, that's 15 less than 2016 (34 R22 produced in 2017). The launch of the G4 program is not planned till one year or even two. . |
Originally Posted by HeliHenri
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35 G2 produced in 2017, that's 15 less than 2016 (34 R22 produced in 2017). The launch of the G4 program is not planned till one year or even two. . |
Royal Aero Society Lecture
During his lecture last year at the Royal Aeronautical Society, Bruno actually said that there are no fixed time scales for the G4 yet and he is very undecided about engines. The company is focusing on the drone first.
The G4 is likely to be quite a way into the future I'm afraid. :( |
Originally Posted by CRAN
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The company is focusing on the drone first.
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Anyone know more about the camera mount as seen in this Cabri photo from Heli-Expo? ShotOver is the camera company. Looks like it would go in place of the lower left plexiglass piece.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...02868129734716 Also, with the so the R44 will continue to have no direct competitors then, that's a shame. |
Originally Posted by CRAN
(Post 10074937)
During his lecture last year at the Royal Aeronautical Society, Bruno actually said ...
The Royal Aeronautical Society's video/audio index page is not being correctly scanned by google. I think they would assist their mission if they got that fixed. 1. Searching google for - royal aeronautical society guimbal The page - is not found. 2. The "title" on soundcloud does not contain anything about the content of the talk. AeroSociety Podcast Cierva Named Lecture 2017 Can someone please pass this to the relevant Royal Aeronautical Society webmaster or other authority? These issues obviously apply to all of their talks, not just this one. Thanks. |
You can find in here:
https://www.aerosociety.com/news/vid...-lecture-2017/ Past events can always be found in the 'Video and Audio Archive'. Jim |
Originally Posted by nocarsgo
(Post 10075354)
Anyone know more about the camera mount as seen in this Cabri photo from Heli-Expo? TopShot is the camera company. Looks like it would go in place of the lower left plexiglass piece.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...02868129734716 Also, with the so the R44 will continue to have no direct competitors then, that's a shame. The camera gimbal company is Shotover (Shotover Camera Systems). They are one of the leaders in gyrostabilized gimbals. They're NZ-based with offices in the US as well. They currently offer larger gimbals (K1 for large lenses, oversize cinema cameras, the F1 for smaller cinema cameras and ENG use) and smaller gimbals (G1 for drones, cable cam and remote head use). This new gimbal is believed to be called the B1. It hasn't been officially announced, and more information will be coming out at NAB (Nat'l Association of Broadcasters) conference in Las Vegas next month. |
Actually the M1 is going to be unveiled at NAB not the B1. The B1 was something Brad came up with and decided to just put the mockup on the G2 at Heli Expo to see what the interest was. He also has the U1 which is the drone.
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Originally Posted by KiwiNedNZ
(Post 10076239)
Actually the M1 is going to be unveiled at NAB not the B1. The B1 was something Brad came up with and decided to just put the mockup on the G2 at Heli Expo to see what the interest was. He also has the U1 which is the drone.
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Cabri g2 issues and troubles
Originally Posted by CRAN
(Post 10074937)
During his lecture last year at the Royal Aeronautical Society, Bruno actually said that there are no fixed time scales for the G4 yet and he is very undecided about engines. The company is focusing on the drone first.
The G4 is likely to be quite a way into the future I'm afraid. :( For a quick example the oilseal from the MGB not having a all or a stoper...and being possible to came out in mid flight and losing all the oil on MGB.... another example the manifold pressure hose fittings smashing the nylon hose and gets lose and leaking ... |
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that's a Mountain H recce????................cheeez almost 10 mins & what a landing; clueless, wouldn't be hiring those guys for mountain workz :\
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He is in almost flat calm conditions and doesn't mention wind until he has been round the peak several times - he should do another video with 20 kts of wind and see how well that profile goes.
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Seems that the pilot flying judged the altitude better than the instructor.
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Originally Posted by JimL
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You can find in here:
<URL> Past events can always be found in the 'Video and Audio Archive'. Jim Is the video available somewhere? |
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A new article and a small video from aopa about the G2 : http://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/a...ot/sleeper-hit . |
Originally Posted by HeliHenri
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A new article and a small video from aopa about the G2 : http://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/a...ot/sleeper-hit . |
I had the dilemma of cost over safety and decided to go with the Cabri and after a 12 month break, I’m just about to restart and hopefully complete my training at Helicentre Aviation in Leicester. |
Originally Posted by r22butters
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Well considering the higher cost, lets hope it stays asleep!
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Originally Posted by HeliHenri
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Don't you think it's a good thing to get choice ?! . ,...and the choice to pay more for training has always been there, Schweizer, Enstrom, R44,...Cabri isn't doing anything new there! :rolleyes: |
How much more is the Cabri than the Robinson to buy and run?
Seems to me that a basic trainer that doesn't want to disassemble itself in midair or rollover with the merest hint of lateral movement and is easy to auto is a pretty good thing. |
Cabri @ USD 450.000 R22 @ USD 350.000 ... rough guess |
Originally Posted by Spunk
(Post 10147659)
Cabri @ USD 450.000 R22 @ USD 350.000 ... rough guess ,...and I live in one of the most expensive states, some guys are flying 22's for even less! |
Seems to me that a basic trainer that doesn't want to disassemble itself in midair or rollover with the merest hint of lateral movement and is easy to auto is a pretty good thing. I really like the Cabri, I instruct and think it is a much better trainer, just too bad it isn't priced lower than an R22. |
Here's a place that has both.
Helicopter Flight Training Packages & Pricing : Eat Sleep Fly ® So, given that school's pricing,... For the 200 hours you need to teach in the R22 its $61,000. With the Cabri you should only need 150 hours to teach (no SFAR 73) so its $58,500. Not much of a difference for you students I guess,..if you can do it all in just 150 hours, and someone out thre will hire a 150 hour Cabri CFI? For me though, as just a renter, its $105 more per hour to go joyriding around, so again no thanks! |
Originally Posted by [email protected]
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How much more is the Cabri than the Robinson to buy and run?
Seems to me that a basic trainer that doesn't want to disassemble itself in midair or rollover with the merest hint of lateral movement and is easy to auto is a pretty good thing. It is a good thing but I’ve noticed here in the UK FTOs are still going mainly down the Robinson route, probably down to cost. |
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