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Helicopter missing after Chelsea v Liverpool match
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Missing helicopter in Cambridgeshire
From the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6614347.stm
Originally Posted by BBC
Search on for missing helicopter
A search is taking place for a helicopter that failed to arrive at its destination in Cambridgeshire early on Wednesday morning. The aircraft took off from John Lennon Airport, Merseyside, at 2300 BST on Tuesday and the last contact was made with it just under two hours later. The helicopter was carrying four people to Thornhaugh, west of Peterborough. Cambridgeshire Police said a search had resumed after an earlier operation was called off because of poor visibility. Helicopters and police search teams have returned to scour an area north of Peterborough. A Cambridgeshire Police spokeswoman said: "The helicopter is thought to have disappeared from radar screens shortly after 0030 BST. "It is thought to have been somewhere near the Leicestershire / Northamptonshire / Cambridgeshire border when it vanished." |
Helicopter missing after Chelsea v Liverpool match
i belive a helicopter crashed last night returning from chelsea/liverpool match
any got any details |
Helicopter missing after Chelsea v Liverpool match
Breaking news coming in on helicopter missing after leaving John Lennon airport last night.
Rumours that helicopter had Chelsea FC officials onboard. Will be an unbelievable coincidence if the Chelsea link is correct following the tragic death of former chairman Matthew Harding several years back..... |
Sky Story
Sky News reporting it here
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...263728,00.html |
Aircraft is G-BYPA, registered to Judith and Phillip Carter of Peterborough.
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Chelsea Football Club have stated that no Club officials are missing or unaccounted for.
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There is a Sir Philip Carter who is President of Everton FC.
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A Sir Phillip Carter is President of Everton FC and former chairman.
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Is that reg not an Atlas heli?
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According to UEFA.com a chap by the same name is president of Everton. Bruce Buck is President of Chelsea.
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This Carter is the CEO of Carter & Carter, quoted company in vocational learning. Company's shares are suspended this morning.
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The whole of PPRuNe is a "rumour section", the "Ru" = Rumour... and thus best to carry on the thread here in Rotorheads section I would have thought...
The Sporting Life article here says that no Chelsea people were on board, but appears to corroborate the fact that an AS355 is missing en route Liverpool John Lennon Airport (dep 23.00) to a private site at Peterborough (reported missing at 00.30) |
lets hope for the best
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The volume of stories reporting this is increasing rapidly. Given the names being quoted in the articles and it being "their own helicopter", it would suggest the missing one is AS355F2 G-BYPA.
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BBC Have a bit more info:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6614347.stm Search on for missing helicopter A helicopter believed to be carrying a wealthy Chelsea FC supporter has been reported missing after taking off from Liverpool on Tuesday night. Police are looking for wreckage west of Peterborough after the aircraft carrying Phillip Carter and three other people disappeared from radar screens. Mr Carter is the founder of firm Carter & Carter and was at Chelsea's Champions League game against Liverpool. A spokeswoman said Mr Carter, the pilot and up to three passengers were aboard. She said: "At this moment we are praying and hoping for the best. "Phillip Carter was returning from the Liverpool football match. We have not had any reported sightings at the moment. "We do not know where he and his passengers are. There have been reports that the helicopter has come down but we cannot confirm anything." Poor visibility The Twin Squirrel aircraft took off from John Lennon Airport, Merseyside, at 2300 BST on Tuesday and the last contact was made with it just under two hours later. The helicopter was due to land in Thornhaugh, west of Peterborough. Cambridgeshire Police said a search for it had resumed on Wednesday morning after being called off earlier because of poor visibility. A spokeswoman said: "The helicopter is thought to have disappeared from radar screens shortly after 0030 BST. "It is thought to have been somewhere near the Leicestershire / Northamptonshire / Cambridgeshire border when it vanished." |
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The President of Everton FC is Sir Philip Carter spelt with one "L". The missing Squirrel belongs to Phillip Carter, with 2 x "L" in his name. Shares in Carter & Carter PLC, are suspended this morning. |
thanks ppheli - sarcastic comments always appreciated when dealing with a sensitive matter such as this.
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Philip is a friend of mine and nothing to do with Chelsea Board apart from supporting them. Just trying to find out who else was on board and hope my fears are not realised. Worrying times
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News of the wreckage has just been confirmed on the BBC website :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6614347.stm |
"Rescue services searching for a missing helicopter, believed to be carrying a wealthy Chelsea FC supporter, have found a crash site in Cambridgeshire.
Police said wreckage has been found between Wansford and Duddington, west of Peterborough," (Close to RAF Wittering, and on 'finals' to the home destination.) |
All very grim.
If they find wreckage, then it never tends to look good for those on board if they don't report on survivors at the scene. Sad stuff indeed.:( |
Wreckage found. Reports on websites of Flight International, Bloomberg, London Evening Standard and others
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The pilot has been named as Stephen Holdich, co-owner of operating company Atlas Helicopters.
The passengers named are Phillip Carter and Jonathan Waller. |
Relative location of Wansford, Thornhaugh and Wittering.
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My heart goes out to all the families and everyone involved. What a sad day.
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Sky News reporting 4 bodies in the wreckage. Very sad indeed.
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Thoughts and condolences go to the family and friends of those concerned. A very sad day indeed.
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From the sky website ( remember it is sky )
---------------------------------------------------------------- 'Chelsea's vice-chairman Matthew Harding and four other men were killed in October 1996 as they returned from a Bolton Wanderers match. They had been travelling on a Twin Squirrel helicopter, which plummeted to earth in farmland near Middlewich, Cheshire, following a Coca Cola Cup tie. An inquest jury returned verdicts of accidental death after hearing that the pilot might have become disorientated flying at night with no autopilot, while trying to map-read and talk to air traffic control.' --------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting last paragraph there ?????? :ooh: |
Nice one ding dong, have some respect for those that have lost. Speculation like that is really not welcome right now. I hope when your end comes people will show a little more courtesy.
As for Boeingmel, I take you are in fact referring to Steve Holdich the pilot. He was the co-director of Atlas helicopters and one of the nicest most enthusiastic people you could meet in this industry. |
Condolences to the family. Another sad day in aviation.
Anyone know what the WX was doing at the time? |
of Matthew Harding the AAIB said,
The most striking clues to the cause of this accident arise from the commander's declarations that he had penetrated IMC conditions coupled with the evidence of three eye witnesses who saw the helicopter in a steep nose-up pitch attitude. These clues indicate loss of control in flight conditions which the neither the pilot nor the helicopter were qualified to enter. However, the local weather was described as fine by the witnesses who saw the helicopter's lights throughout its final manoeuvres and no-one reported seeing it penetrate cloud. Moreover, the accident might have been avoided if the helicopter had been recovered correctly from this abnormal manoeuvre. This analysis leads to the conclusion that IMC penetration was a perception rather than a fact and explains the probable reasons for the mis-perception and unsuccessful recoveryfrom the nose-high manoeuvre. |
the weather from Wittering
EGXT 020050Z AUTO 02011KT 5000NDV BR BKN002/// 07/07 Q1017= EGXT 012350Z AUTO 02011KT 5000NDV BR OVC002/// 08/07 Q1017= EGXT 012250Z 02011KT 3500 HZ BKN002 08/07 Q1017= EGXT 012150Z 03010KT 5000 HZ BKN004 09/08 Q1017= |
worked with holditch many times, condolences to all concerned, another sad day in the history of aviation, rip steve
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Nice one ding dong, have some respect for those that have lost. Speculation like that is really not welcome right now. I hope when your end comes people will show a little more courtesy. I apologise if you thought i was was not being respectful mountjoy that was not the case. I was merely pointing to a media report on the event. And in the event of my end, well ... time will tell. |
BBC reporting "and his teenage son".
Now that is sad . . . Earlier reports were suggesting 'low cloud'. How low is 'low'? |
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