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FloaterNorthWest 18th Nov 2008 14:14

beater,

Your profile doesn't give much of a clue to your background.

It may be helpful if you listed your types, licences, experience, etc. so that readers, both experienced and in-experienced, can form an opinion as to whether you should be listened to as a source of valuable knowledge* or ignored as an opinionated prat*.

*delete as required.

FNW

ShyTorque 18th Nov 2008 14:23

Bit harsh there, FNW. :ooh:

After all, only a handful of folk know who most of us really are.

FloaterNorthWest 18th Nov 2008 15:14

Shytorque,

I didn't mean to offend.

I gave the readers a choice of two, it is up to them to choose. I have made it a bit clearer that it is up to them to choose and not an expression of my opinion. :}

FNW

ShyTorque 18th Nov 2008 16:26

I agree, it is useful to put some personal details on the "profile" page. If there are no details posted it is easy to assume the person is putting forward an unqualified opinion.

Senior Pilot 18th Nov 2008 20:55


Originally Posted by jumpseater
Just a quick query having followed the thread from day one, and being a Qualified Met observer, how would the above occur? Is it the low cloud in effect being blown down to the surface, or more technical than that? Interesting to me as I've never heard of the phenomena,


This video shows a 205 creating ice fog at -40C in a high hover. The last 20 seconds is the most impressive :eek:

jumpseater 18th Nov 2008 22:19

SP, thanks for that, I know what to look for then, and importantly for me as someone who'll be watching remotely, how quickly it develops when/if it does!

Has VA seen this vid?, could be a useful safety one for his project!:)

ShyTorque 18th Nov 2008 23:24

SP, thanks for posting that, I hadn't seen that video before.

Perhaps the smell of BS alluded to at post #132 will now be a little less pungent for the contributor? :hmm:

rotorspeed 19th Nov 2008 07:47

FNW/ShyTorque

Beater may not have any profile but from previous posts has apparently "flown thousands of hours IFR" so should know what he's talking about. Bit strange though that he says he's never departed from or landed at a non-airfield site at night.

What sort of IFR flying have you done so much of beater? Not fixed wing by any chance is it?

Bravo73 19th Nov 2008 09:04


Originally Posted by rotorspeed (Post 4540304)
Beater may not have any profile but from previous posts has apparently "flown thousands of hours IFR" so should know what he's talking about. Bit strange though that he says he's never departed from or landed at a non-airfield site at night.

Those 'thousands of hours IFR' might well all have been on the NS (hence any non-airfield site will still be relatively well lit.) Or (and it's a big OR), we all might have to heed the warning that is at the bottom of every page...

Although the beater has been rather conspicuous by his silence since FNW made his request yesterday afternoon.

the beater 19th Nov 2008 09:40

Just busy, guys. Interesting last piece in GASIL. Will get back shortly.
Will probably have to wait till tommorow now as some personal business has just cropped up.
But I'm not going to reveal my identity, as this is not important. What is important is what we say. My public profile, if I completed it would have no bearing on my opinions, and in any case could be false.
I stand by what I've said about the case, and am prepared to accept that my opinion leaves me in a minority.
Just to clarify one thing thought; I've landed and taken off on many occasions at unlit sites at night, it's just that they've been familiar to me.

iainms 19th Nov 2008 10:49

I'm not an expert on night-time departures from unsurveyed sites/helipads. In fact I've never done one yet. I've spent a lot of hours low level using nightsun but I've never landed or taken off from an off-arifield site at night that I was not familiar with.

This is what the beater says, read again the ' that I was not familiar with ' bit !

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