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PENNINE BOY 22nd Jan 2007 18:10

R22 Crash Stockport
 
Just watched Granada News North West.

Just shown a R22 that had crashed in Stockport, the heli was on its side on a snow covered field.

Both occupants were ok!

cyclic flare 22nd Jan 2007 19:25

I saw the picture on TV. Massive coning on the blades low RRPM. Maximum 70% RRPM on landing very luckly, No doubt pilot error

rattle 22nd Jan 2007 21:06

Only two posts, and the speculating and blame has begun. Very disappointing.

wg13_dummy 22nd Jan 2007 21:17


Originally Posted by cyclic flare (Post 3083664)
I saw the picture on TV. Massive coning on the blades low RRPM. Maximum 70% RRPM on landing very luckly, No doubt pilot error


You should offer your services to the AAIB. I'm sure they'd pay you a fortune for your brilliant skills.


Chiseller.

cyclic flare 22nd Jan 2007 22:10

Dummy,

Curved blades with ripples low rrpm pilot error end of of story

Practice Auto 3,2,1 22nd Jan 2007 22:20

No, not end of story. That will be decided by the AAIB.

....Unless you were the pilot?

wg13_dummy 22nd Jan 2007 22:22


Originally Posted by cyclic flare (Post 3083950)
Dummy,
Curved blades with ripples low rrpm pilot error end of of story

It may well be pilot error but youre just guessing aren't you?
Can you cast your expert eye on this and let us know the cause. We're still unsure;
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...0/Picture1.jpg


In fact, email me. We have a shed load of incidents and accidents that need clearing up double quick time. Should save the Crown a ton of dosh.

Do you water divine too?

Grainger 22nd Jan 2007 22:27

c_f were you there ?

Thought not, so keep your nonsense to yourself.

Whirlygig 22nd Jan 2007 22:31


Originally Posted by wg13_dummy (Post 3083966)
Do you water divine too?

...er... I can a bit and I know someone who's quite good at dowsing but it probably wouldn't help in Air Accident Investigation unless you'd lost some of the parts!

Cheers

Whirls

SilsoeSid 22nd Jan 2007 22:48

It is clear that the Lynx incident above was caused by an inadvertant inflation of a dinghy pack inside the aircraft! :rolleyes:
Next!

540DEGREE TorqueTurn 22nd Jan 2007 22:57

cf,
any helicopter powered into the ground weather it be at 100 percent or 55 percent rrpm is still going to bend cone the blades up under the weight of all the **** under turning them ,and give it the nice little ripple effect ..

float test 22nd Jan 2007 23:13

i was there and i have photos. It was low rotor rpm. The horn came on a 400ft downwind going real slow. The pilot lowered the lever slightly and the passenger also a pilot without duals dumped the lever at 80% rrpm he then bend the lever on the way up about six ft to cushion the landing. The helicopter then rolled to one side.

No i wasn,t in the machine

Scissorlink 22nd Jan 2007 23:19

Maybe someone got out the fly spray... Anyone got a link for the news item ??

SL

SilsoeSid 22nd Jan 2007 23:36

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....er_crash_.html

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/Co...il_0_Image.jpg

mortennb 22nd Jan 2007 23:45

Pilot error or not..
 
Good to see that both walked away... :)

SilsoeSid 22nd Jan 2007 23:48


Originally Posted by cyclic flare (Post 3083950)
I saw the picture on TV. Massive coning on the blades low RRPM. Maximum 70% RRPM on landing very luckly, No doubt pilot error

:=

You saw the picture on TV :mad:
I don't suppose you gave any thought that it could be a design error, or even the result of something a previous pilot could have caused......did you?

Whirlygig 22nd Jan 2007 23:58

In anticaption of recreating the furore that surrounded the previous threads about R22 accidents, I am glad the pilot and passenger are OK.

Check out the comments from "Andrew, France" on the MEN link!

Cheers

Whirls

wg13_dummy 23rd Jan 2007 00:01


Originally Posted by Whirlygig (Post 3084084)
In anticaption of recreating the furore that surrounded the previous threads about R22 accidents, I am glad the pilot and passenger are OK.

Check out the comments from "Andrew, France" on the MEN link!

Cheers

Whirls


Lol. What a tube stick.


Yep, agree glad both were unhurt.

PENNINE BOY 23rd Jan 2007 00:28

RATTLE

I posted what I saw on TV! I was not aportioning blame to anybody about the incident!

I am glad that they walked away from this, I was worried that the ship looked like G GROUT, I know the owner who lives on the Wirral, and the press said that one of the guys was from the wirral.

So for F---S sake chill out!!

People post threads on here and all they get is a load of shi- thrown back. We are not making out when and why these incidents happen or who if anyone is to blame, But if we can all pick up the relavant reports from the AAIB when they are published and hopefully learn where others have fallen then hopefully we can pick up a few pointers to help us all in our daily flying :ugh:

Whirlybird 23rd Jan 2007 06:57

Pennine Boy,
I dn't think Rattle was blaming you; I think he meant the person who posted after you. But.....

So for F---S sake chill out!! People post threads on here and all they get is a load of shi- thrown back.
I entirely agree. I saw that there were eighteen posts, and thought I might find something useful about which aircraft, who was invoved, etc. But no, just speculation - which seems natural to me - complaints at speculation, complaints of complaints.....etc etc. :ugh:


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