The scene is set - incl Low Flying rules and Is there a 'cultural divide'?
 

The scene is set
A beautiful British summer evening .
The village pub is almost full
The tables on the lawn are also full
The carpark like wise
Then WRRR,WRRR, WRRR, WRRR,WRRR,
WRRR,WRRR, WRRR, WRRR,WRRR,WRRR.
WRRR,WRRR, WRRR, WRRR,WRRR,WRRR.
A long comes a shiny yellow Robinson R22
Lands in a small car parking space
ALONG SIDE side the cars
The lone pilot walks in the bar,
Drinks a beer
wanders back to the car park
and flies away.
NOT EXACTLY THE IMAGE I WISH TO PROMOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FACT NOT RUMOUR!!!!!!! GRRR,GRRR

Only one pint? Bloody wimp :rolleyes:

No, I'm joking.

Where abouts?
 

Did you see this with your own eyes? or is it hearsay?

Where abouts in the UK are you talking about?

If this is true surely someone will have noted the registration for forwarding to the CAA?

Chester.

How do you know he was drinking beer? :hmm:

...Replace 'pilot' with 'ranger' and you got yourself a cowboy/gal :hmm:

"Lands in a small car parking space ALONG SIDE the cars"
I'm sure the owners were pleased about having an industrial sized blender parked ALONG SIDE their cars in such a tight area. A village being a village, would there not of been an open field a stones throw away perhaps?..sounds extremely confined to me;)

chester2005
 

Its true all right
I am not prepared to name the pilot, or the registration
but would confirm that the pub is on the edge of the A40 main road

TOT - with respect I am not sure of the point of this topic.

If you feel so aggrieved why not tell a grown up or be brave and tells us the Reg.

Man and wife fly to posh restaurant in super flashy twin. Grass and stones are blown over parked cars and nearby guests sitting outside. A grand arrival and everyone is impressed. After the meal which includes wine, man and wife depart in same super flashy twin. Is this any different to the R22 man who allegedly drank a beer. Whats wrong with having a beer anyway.

Good on him, why don't you all just calm down and stop being a bunch of british prats. After all it is a helicopter?

Chairman:

Does the term "risk threshold" ring any bells ?

"I got away with that last time, so a little more won't hurt" - and so on and so on ad infinitum or ad crash. With luck the pilot will only take themselves with them, not clobber poor unfortunates on the ground too.

What a pack of pussycats you Poms are!

In a big bushfire season not too long ago, an R22 landed outside the pub in the town of Broke in the Hunter Valley.

THREE men got out of it, went into the bar and scoffed a few coldies, then hopped back in and flew back to their base.:ooh: :eek: :sad: :8

Wait, where does the third chap go? A 22 is barely big enough for 2 normal-size people as is! :eek:

At the risk of being totally politically incorrect, I'd be a bit concerned if someone landed close to cars/objects/people in a car park; otherwise, how many beer drinkers in t'pub climbed into their cars and then drove home, some after considerably more than one pint (of shandy, perhaps)?

Not too many years ago, a pint (or two) at lunchtime in the wardroom was quite normal, and the Frogs would go a step better and have a litre of wine on the lunch table :p All followed by 'Hands to Flying Stations' ;)

With advancing years my preference is for a cup of caffeine, and commercial operations preclude any alcohol at all, but I'm blowed if I'd feel terribly aggrieved if I saw a PPL doing what I (and many of my friends) would have thought quite acceptable. Does the green eyed God of Jealousy have anything to do with the disapproval shown here?

If the above is so why do private flights not "preclude any alcohol"? What reason for not consuming alcohol on a commercial operation is absent on a private flight?

Genuine question...

Got to say I have no problems with landing for a spot of refreshment, but..

If I had my pile of shiny metal parked in the CAR park, and some dimwit's downwash pebble dashed it for me, I'd be less than happy. As someone said earlier, wasn't there a field or something nearby??

Whether the guy was doing anything dangerous is up for debate I suppose, (I'm being deliberately liberal here) however it was in the least, a bit inconsiderate.

Without wishing to whip up an argument, with regard to the input from the Southern hemisphere, are we really comparing apples with apples here?

Attitude
 

I have to agree with TOT on this issue.

Regardless of questions of legality relating to his landing and the proximity of vehicles, suitability of site etc (this is a separate issue and if rules are broken action should be taken), my feeling is that the primary point here is IMAGE.

We have all come across pilots propping up a bar tellling you how wonderful they are - that's just human nature and sadly the type of people drawn to flying seem to represent a high proportion of these tossers, however:

Our overriding concern should be to the image we create as pilots and we should always try to operate in a neighbour-friendly fashion to minimise the amount of flak that we will receive.

How many times have you worked on a airfield and the biggest moaner is the guy who lives by the runway threshold. It is hard enough to pacify someone whose life is surrounded by aviation and has grown "used" to normal aviation practice, without trying to create an impression of professionalism and safety to non-aviation related parties by cavalier acts of show.

This incident only throws fuel on the fire - I can't believe the pilot was SO thirsty that this was his only option - more likely it was an attempt to demonstrate the chord-length of his genitalia and only enhances the impression of pilots being up their own backsides.

Just read the thread regarding the village in uproar over a private owner keeping his helicopter on his property.

With such restrictive legislation in our industry, we should be making every effort to limit further regulation by operating considerately. Incidents such as this by the limited "few", spoil the overall environment for the "many" and as such we shouldn't perpetuate the process.

Flying into pubs / restaurants etc is fun and we shouldn't restrict this. That is one reason why people take their PPL's. However, a well coordinated, considerately planned and thoughtful arrival will demonstrate good airmanship, portray an image of professionalism and safety and enhance our reputation not diminsh it.

I think that the pilot in question should be made aware of the impression they are creating in the hope they will learn some humility and see how it looks from the outside.

As a final point, those statements about "prats", "pussycats" etc, just demonstrate your ineptitude (look it up as I doubt you have the intellect to know its meaning !).

Its to$$ers like you that ruin it for the rest of us - nobody is impressed by your faux-bravado and it seems the only person blissfully unaware of what a prick you sound like, is you. It is NOT big and NOT clever.

Parre ... reposte.

FO

BFD
 

There was no comment on, if the car park was sealed or not.
There was no comment on, if there was any down way disturbance or close to the actual parked vehicles.
There was no comment if the said aviator had one of those pussy alcohol free beers commonly available.:{

Pull your heads in people. What a bunch of he said she said kindergarten krap!

There is actually one operator that operates a “Pub Crawl” by helicopter, and I tell you it’s the best fun since sliced bread.:D

If you want to put in rules against this and rules against that and wrap everything in cotton wool then you may as well not get out of bed.:ugh:

John has it right,

“Does the green eyed God of Jealousy have anything to do with the disapproval shown here?”

I think so:E

does it matter what reg it was the reg does not confirm who the pilot was
especially if it was from a school

just out of interest how many yellow robbies are there out there in the uk possibly no more that 5 but i may stand corrected

tot
it cant be one of northern england yellow robbies i think they have broke them all

Nothing to do with jealousy. Alcohol and flying don't mix. Period.

However, if only a soft drink was involved, isn't that what personal helicopters are for? Assuming other people are not inconvenienced, of course.

Phil

TWOTBAGS

Clearly not, as it was full, as described in original post.

Yes there was...And if your fifty grand motor was one of the ones in the car park, you'd be just as understanding.. right??:rolleyes:


Simple analysis here from FlightOops..

NAIL, HEAD, HIT.:ok:

Dropping your Robbie in a car park full of cars is either an indicator of fundamental stupidity and ill thought out flying.. or a complete arrogant disregard for anyone elses cars. How would it be recieved if someone dumped his car on an active helipad while he popped to the nearest bar for a swift one...?? Extreme example..?? Maybe, but true all the same!!!:rolleyes: