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Aerial photography in France
Do you need a special permit for Aerial Photography in France? With a foreign registered aircraft. (G-reg/N-Reg)
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HillerBee,
I did that 20 years ago in a german registered H 300C, with a french license. Customs, AoC and license issues having been adressed, you need to apply for a specific authorization with the local Civil Aviation administration - districts. This is to cover the exemption of the 500 ft mini flight height. I suggest you to visit the DGAC site. Cheers ATN |
Just so I don't misunderstand, to make an off-airfield landing with a heli in France I would need a Helisurfaces permit regardless of whether the flight was private or public transport. Secondly, I would need to have any particular landing site approved as well.
Does anyone have contact details to hand for approving landing sites - is this a central function in Paris or is it delegated to the various Departments? Thanks SC. |
Planning to fly to Le Mans this year. Would I need a helisurface permit to land at track or is it licenced?
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The boundry fence for the airfield at Le Mans goes right past the main entrance. During the race there is a tourist heliport set up there to give punters a wizz round the track. They certainly have fuel/reception tents etc and they look to have up to 8 machines in the air at once. I dont have their details but if you could get in with that crowd, it might solve your problems.
I will be making my annual pilgrimage (slumming it by road) but I will keep an eye out for you!! |
Heli flying in France
Do you still need the permit if you are flying to a hotel that has a helipad?
Hairy |
Do you still need the permit if you are flying to a hotel that has a helipad? |
If you can wait the 6 mths or more to get the helisurfaces chit you'll also then need to talk to the local Syndicat d'Initiative to find out about a landing site permit. I don't recall if it is they or the local Prefecture that actually issue them, but they will know.
It makes you realize how lucky we are here in UK! |
If as a pilot, you have the permit, you are then allowed to land outside of official airfields - that is what the permit is for. This can be at any private location, and all you need is written permission (normally faxed prior) from the owner of the property where you land. Assuming of course that it is not in restricted airspace. The written permission must state the pilot's name, the landing site, and the duration for which landing is allowed.
Hope this helps. |
Having a bit of a giggle trying to get through to 'Prefecture Police...'
Franglais is not as bad as I thought it was but yet to receive replies to e-mail and letter. Spoke to some lady on switchboard......and didn't get very far past the "Monsieur Longtemps est dans le chambre......" Jet-systems are the guys that operate a helipad at the airport - there does not seem to be a site inside the racetrack ....... |
Success - I think.....
After receiving an application form for aerial photography (!) some headway at last.
Madame Niro is the contact and correct form promptly returned. Photocpoies of licence(s), last couple of pages of logbook and a form of ID. Tel: +33 1 53 71 34 13 Fax: +33 1 53 71 57 85 Now, will it be approved in time? If so, it will be in no small part due to www.freetranslation.com ! |
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Hats off to the French!
Received permission in the post this morning.
Boss confirms that we'll be going Monday to Monday this afternoon. Now that's what I call timing............... |
They must have done a batch of them: I received mine yesterday too.
Though fortunately, no desperate need on my part! |
The French seem to take paperwork very seriously. I landed in France once and the checked paperwork, insurance etc, had been removed from the aircraft ! They wouldn't let me leave til they got it ! No one's fault but mine, but had quite a scare being escorted by the local Gendarmarie to the nearest fax machine !:uhoh:
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Heli flying in France
I live in France and operate a "G" reg helicopter here. You need an "Attestation" (Permit) to fly around France which I obtained from the Prefecture de Police in Paris in about 3 weeks.
The application simply asks for basic hours flown etc and personal details. You ned the permission of the landowner to land and take off. The basic rule for landing in more built up areas is that if the village for example is marked by a white circle on the half mil chart you can come and go as you please, if you have the permission of the land owner. If the village is maked on the chart by a yellow dot then you need the permission of the mayor to arrive etc. email me and let me have a contact phone number and I will call you with the full "SP". It is currently 34 degrees in the Vendee /Loire region and set to get hotter so make sure you do your power checks. |
Has anyone got any pictures from France?
'Views from the cockpit'? Pictures of recommended hotels with helipads / other private sites? Experience of hotels / helipads etc would be useful to anyone planning a French trip. Heliport |
To start the ball rolling ..........
Burgundy vineyards http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o...l/60963561.jpg Beaune http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1010147web.jpg C15th Hospice de Beaune http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1010144web.jpg Looking forward to some fine Burgundy http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ine0122web.jpg Chateau Saint-Sabine, nr Dijon http://chste-sabine.ifrance.com/gene1.jpg C17th chateau, rooms from €55, dinner from €30 excl wine. Excellent food, and superb wine list. The picture (provided by the hotel) is a little misleading because the pad is hidden by tall trees on final approach. The tops are just visible in the bottom of the picture - and they've grown since. High recce reveals all. |
Private Helipads
Just a thought - would not the French equivalent of the BHAB have a guide to private pads? If not, Mr Pooley may find a market for one!
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More photo's
I know it isn't France, but just a hop over the border is San Sebastian
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nsebastian.jpg Leaving San Sebastian for Biaritz after we ran with the bulls http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nsebastian.jpg Departing view of airport at San Sebastian http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nsebastian.jpg Regards MD :ok: |
Heliport
Sorry, Since i am a computer dummy i don't know how to resize phot's, so if you get a chance can you resize them.
Thanks MD:( |
Done. :ok:
Phew! :zzz: I've left a few as links. Heliport |
Resizing
Heliport
Thanks for that. :ok: Could you send me a PM with how to do the resizing and software you used, so i don't have to pester you with this again. :rolleyes: MD :ok: |
Helisurface in France
http://www.e-sign.be/private/heli/langoustier.jpg
Mas du Langoustier, Island of Porquerolle, Cote d'Azur Green gras in front of hotel, very nice but a bit tricky in gusting Mistral. Picture taken on a windless day... d3 |
Based out of Jet Systems http://www.TEAMLNT.com
Had a great week. Ferried guests, drivers and team personnel in to Le Mans throughout the week from a great Chateau (des Broittieres) 40nms sw near Champigne (working on pic!) Dropped off a tired boss and his wife back in sunny Yorkshire, with the sun glinting off the Le Mans 24hr trophy for first place in GT2!!!! Reckon it's been a while since a 'privateer' has won such a prestigious race........ Chants of 'YORKSHIRE YORKSHIRE' could be heard from the podium!!!! :) Winning car http://www.teamlnt.com/Images/Media/...s/IMG_0145.jpg http://www.bluetonguehelicopters.com.au/pprune/gr.jpg |
Chateau des Broittieres - 40nm sw Le Mans
47:41.3N 000:35.4W
XV111e Vallee de la Loire France Francois & Hedwige de Valbray 49330 Champigne Tel: +33 (0) 2 41 42 00 02 Fax: ..........01 55 www.broittieres.com [email protected] Chateau des Broittieres (South view) http://www.bluetonguehelicopters.com.au/pprune/grr.jpg |
Next week am taking my 206 down to just south of La Rochelle with my freshly minted Helisurface permit on board. Can anyone recommend a good chateau for lunch somewhere between Deauville and La Rochelle that is known to accept helicopter diners? Somewhere in the Loire would be most pleasing...
Thanks in advance. SC |
Heli Surfaces Permit
Hi Southern Cross,
Is a HSP difficult to get? I have heard that it is a beaurocratic nightmare. Any help appreciated. VBR Hairyplane |
Hi Hairyplane
If you're a member of HCGB, get in touch with the club event secretary - he's an expert on this and has a pre-completed example form to help you fill in the application. I do know the forms have changed lately though and I'm assuming he will have an up to date version. Regards 2Sticks |
Heli Surfaces Permit
Thanks a lot!
I am a member and will do just that. VBR Hairyplane |
Back out to France 2007
Don't get out much but back to Le Mans for pre-qual this weekend in an attempt to defend GT2 title................
Has much changed since last year? Now that we have a helicopter with 'legs' - looking at flying direct to chateau from LEEDS... has anyone managed to convince the French customs to permit this or do you always have to enter via an 'airfield'. |
Are there any height restirctions, for landing in the Alps (as there are in Switzerland)? I'm planning to go down to the Alps this summer in my 206. I have a Heli-surface permit and will land at around 1,100m outside a village.
I need to be a bit careful: the local mayor is bit anti-heli, I need to be bang on with the paperwork! |
chateau site nr Le Mans
both cars running well for Le mans and all drivers qualified.
not a drop-in for Lunch site but a heli-friendly owner who can provide reasonable accom with a nearby Auberge for grub. 47 53 24.14N 000 12 59.08E [email protected] Pierre Monnoyer 72230 Monce-en-Belin how are pics uploaded again? |
Tour de France NOTAM - THIS SUNDAY
Notam pasted in below, will maybe affect people flying out of Biggin Hill, Redhill, Headcorn, Damyn's Hall, Rochester etc..
Just one question - has anyone an easy way of getting a graphical picture of this notam? OR do we have to all hunch over our charts and plot them out by hand? Surely there is an easier way? ---------pasted in-------- REF: J2860/07 From: 2007-Jul-08 Sun 10:00 To: 2007-Jul-08 Sun 15:30 ICAO: EGTT AUS 07-07-0167/2258/AS7 RESTRICTED AREA TEMPORARY FOR UK LEG OF TOUR DE FRANCE CYCLE RACE. MAUVE AIC 51/2007 MAUVE 231 REFERS. THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTION OF FLYING REGULATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE UNDER ARTICLE 96 OF THE AIR NAVIGATION ORDER 2005 (MIL ACFT SHOULD COMPLY WITH JSP552 201.135.9) - 1. BTN 1000 AND 1130 NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1500FT AMSL WI THE FOLLOWING AREA - 513122N 0001106E 512510N 0003630E 512125N 0002500E 512539N 0000821E 512628N 0000821E THENCE ANTI-CLOCKWISE BY AN ARC OF A CIRCLE RAD 5NM CENTRED ON 513019N 0000319E 513122N 0001106E 2. BTN 1100 AND 1230 NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1800 FEET AMSL WI THE FOLLOWING AREA -512125N 0002500E 512510N 0003603E 511445N 003400E 511200N 0002300E 511130N 0001200E 512125N 0002500E. 3. BTN 1200 AND 1330 NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1800FT AMSL WI THE FOLLOWING AREA - 511130N 0001200E 511200N 0002300E 510900N 0003000E 510330N 0003000E 510620N 0001200E 511130N 0001200E 4. BTN 1300 AND 1400 NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1800FT AMSL WI THE FOLLOWING AREA - 510900N 0003000E 510800N 0003800E 511000N 0004630E 510350N 0004620E 510140N 0004130E 510330N 0003000E 510900N 0003000E. 5. BTN 1330 AND 1450 NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1800FT AMSL WI THE FOLLOWING AREA - 511000N 0004630E 511220N 0005130E 510930N 0005930E 510350N 0010020E 510350N 0004620E 511000N 0004630E. 6. BTN 1410 AND 1530 NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1800FT AMSL WI THE FOLLOWING AREA - 511850N 0010100E 511850N 0010920E 510600N 0010640E 510350N 0010020E 510930N 0005930E. THESE REGULATIONS DO NOT APPLY TO ANY ACFT IN THE SERVICE OF METROPOLITAN OR KENT POLICE OR FLYING IN THE SERVICE OF HELICOPTER EMERGENCY SERVICES OR FLYING ON BEHALF OF AERIENNES HELICOPTERES DE FRANCE OR AMAURY SPORTS ORGANISATION. |
Originally Posted by thejacket
(Post 3395815)
Just one question - has anyone an easy way of getting a graphical picture of this notam?
http://www.flyontrack.co.uk/2007restrictions.pdf It's on pg 4. |
Fast Online Notams with Map
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=239905
Discussed on this thread in private flying, used it a few times and found very easy, well worth a look |
use the notam map on www.ukga.com
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The AIC has a very good map of the RA(T), so why should you need to plot it?
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I was in Hyde Park today (sat) watching the tour prologue; a police helicopter was constantly overhead. Isn't this a bit of a waste of taxpayers money (what's it cost? about £1,000 per hour?), just having it mooching around, when there isn't an actual incident happening?
Why can't it just stay on the ground until it's needed to attend and incident? |
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