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BigMike 13th Jan 2006 05:33

Vietnam photo
 
This is quite an impressive photo.


http://www.pieceuniquegallery.com/hu...6603_large.jpg

happyhamster 13th Jan 2006 08:15

Re: Vietnam photo
 
you can never find a Huey when you want one, and then.........:)

helicopter-redeye 13th Jan 2006 08:39

Re: Vietnam photo
 
"Rumours of a hike in fuel prices bring a sudden panic buying dash to the pumps in downtown Pleiku"

:ok:

Thud_and_Blunder 13th Jan 2006 09:22

Re: Vietnam photo
 
"Y'know, in the future they'll be able to do this in Photoshop. Cuts out all the dangerous stuff."

OR:

(Bloke in foreground) "have you noticed how one bollock's always smaller and lower than the other one?"

212man 13th Jan 2006 09:23

Re: Vietnam photo
 
It must take a lot of Nr beeping to keep the blades in synch!

Lunar 13th Jan 2006 10:02

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Local airfield announces first drop in fuel prices in 6 years, queues likely.

rotorque 13th Jan 2006 11:29

Re: Vietnam photo
 
ELT signal was narrowed down to less than half a mile......

search continues

Texdoc 13th Jan 2006 12:58

Re: Vietnam photo
 
"Everyone back on the ground... we can't go anywhere till I find my Ride of the Valkyries tape!"

Quick Release 13th Jan 2006 13:11

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Some great replies... made my day... i think first price so far goes to Rotorque :p , all very close. :ok:

Oogle 13th Jan 2006 13:25

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Our Kiwi cousins will relate:

"Baaaaah, baaaaah, baaaaaah" :}

remote hook 13th Jan 2006 14:14

Re: Vietnam photo
 
I wonder how many in that pic survived the war...

Heliport 13th Jan 2006 15:33

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Great captions. Keep 'em coming. :)



(U.S helicopters providing support for U.S. ground troops fly into a staging area 50 miles North of Saigon. The fuel for a mobile gas station is stored in large rubber tanks. North of Saigon, 1966)

Head Turner 13th Jan 2006 15:47

Re: Vietnam photo
 
The nurses are holding a ball tonight.

One dummy misunderstood, names Bush.

NickLappos 13th Jan 2006 16:13

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Happiness is a cold LZ with space for 50 ships. To the 500 troops waiting just off frame, "Gentlemen, your ride is here...."

The Hueys had a frame behind the pilot's door that held a colored card defining that aircraft, and the troops were issued a similar printed card. I covered a 50 ship insertion one day, with fast movers nape-ing the perimeter, and Arty prepping the area (last round is a WP that airbursts in the center of the LZ, as the ships were on 30 second final.) Timing is everything in life...

The courage, skill, precision and discipline I saw were in sharp contrast to what some think about our troops in Vietnam. I'd follow my Air Cav Troop into Hell, they were that good!

http://webpages.charter.net/nlappos/...rymike1970.jpg

http://www.dtroop.com

SASless 13th Jan 2006 17:12

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Ah....jes anutta day at work....who wants to trade a Beans and Franks for a Pork and Scalloped Potatoes?

NickLappos 13th Jan 2006 17:15

Re: Vietnam photo
 
SASless,

I lost my P38, can I borrow yours? Never mind, Chief has Beenie-Weenies!

BigMike 13th Jan 2006 18:38

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Has anyone read these books?

http://images.barnesandnoble.com/ima...00/9192088.gif

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/07...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
I was looking for a decent book on the Scout helicopters used during the war.
Thanks BM

B Sousa 13th Jan 2006 21:36

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Since there is some history here, just want to remember a friend who drove Loachs over in the land of the two piece Nomex..
Steve Patterson 3/4 Cav, 25th Division around 67/68. Hell of a nice guy, survived it all to get himself killed in Venezuala a year ago.......doin what he did there, tryin to save someones ass.
Never Forget.....

SASless 13th Jan 2006 22:17

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Anyone remember where the B-2 Unit was....when viewing the C-Rat Case after you turned it upside down so only the blank bottom of the cartons were visible? (Think the FAST test was important....this was life essential!)

How many ways are there to open a beer bottle without a proper opener?

How many ways are there to heat canned rations without heat tabs?

How many cigars in an Supplement Pack?

Did anyone ever eat the peanut butter in the C-Rats?

Robbo Jock 13th Jan 2006 22:48

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Nick

I covered a 50 ship insertion one day
"one day"

On the assumption that on all the other days, you covered a non-50 ship formation, what was your more usual size of operation ? How often did the big formations happen ?

SASless 13th Jan 2006 22:59

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Think back to the kickoff of the Cambodia deal....it looked like a scene out of the Wizard of Oz....sky full of things headed West and recovering to about fifty refuelling points. Talk about grid lock!

Robbo,

Most lifts were probably company unit sized ops....about 12-16 lift birds, two gunteams maybe three gun teams of two birds each....and one C&C aircraft. Throw in an Air Force FAC maybe...sometimes the Chinooks were along if it was a Firebase move where artillery was being positioned.

AirCav Troops moved one organic platoon of infantry and supported them with gunship platoons.

Air Mobile units....worked in all sizes of units...platoon, company, battalion,brigade, division....with the main tactical unit being the Infantry Battalion.

Cobra pilots were selected out of flight school for their inability to fly formation thus being unfit to be Slick Pilots.....right, Nick?

Robbo Jock 13th Jan 2006 23:20

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Thanks SASless.

When you talk about moving a Firebase, would you still have the 12-16 other aircraft along ? Would the troops be there to secure the new area ? Or would the arty be moved into a position that was known to be secure, so the guns and troops would 'just' be along to suppress any surprises ?

Aser 13th Jan 2006 23:21

Re: Vietnam photo
 
I read "Low Level Hell" , it was really good to me...


Originally Posted by BigMike
Has anyone read these books?
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/ima...00/9192088.gif
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/07...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
I was looking for a decent book on the Scout helicopters used during the war.
Thanks BM


SASless 13th Jan 2006 23:29

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Robbo,

Usually the troops were inserted...established a perimeter...then the artillery would be moved in....the area was usually secure when the Chinooks arrived with the artillery...only a few minutes after the first troops were on the ground. I have done initial assaults with the Chinook but that was very rare. When we did that we were on the tail end of the Huey formation which put a lot of troops on the ground in a hurry.

The photo was of Miss Patches, one of the aircraft I flew. It had a magnet hidden somewhere inside it that attracted lead.

My favorite aircraft was named Miss Mynookie.

Gerhardt 13th Jan 2006 23:38

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Thanks for the bit of history. Thanks for your time in service.

Robbo Jock 13th Jan 2006 23:55

Re: Vietnam photo
 
SASless, again thanks.

What photo are you referring to ?

SASless 14th Jan 2006 00:18

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Robbo,

I posted a pic...it worked fine for the first viewing...on the second time back a website logo had appeared in place of the pic....thus I deleted it. Dunno what is going on...but will re-post it later if I can.

It was a pic of my favorite old girl...Miss Patches, a Chinook that had more than a few patched holes.

NickLappos 14th Jan 2006 09:40

Re: Vietnam photo
 
SASless said:
"Cobra pilots were selected out of flight school for their inability to fly formation thus being unfit to be Slick Pilots.....right, Nick?"

No SASless, we were selected by our inability to tell one target from another, and the concurrent willingness to shoot anything. Combined with the amount of ammo we carried, the results were a lot of holes in things.

212man 14th Jan 2006 12:30

Re: Vietnam photo
 
I've spent a whole day in Changi waiting for that response (how sad is that?). Pleased to see the level of observation one comes to expect these days was rewarded!

btw the Tiger was worth the wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:uhoh: )

finalchecksplease 14th Jan 2006 18:36

Re: Vietnam photo
 
All becomes clear now:
Nick said:
“No SASless, we were selected by our inability to tell one target from another, and the concurrent willingness to shoot anything. Combined with the amount of ammo we carried, the results were a lot of holes in things.”
And SASless said:
“The photo was of Miss Patches, one of the aircraft I flew. It had a magnet hidden somewhere inside it that attracted lead.”
And:
“It was a pic of my favorite old girl...Miss Patches, a Chinook that had more than a few patched holes.”
So some “ blue on blue” in those days Nick?

I bet Geronimo never realized it was you! :D :E

DanglyBob 14th Jan 2006 20:09

Re: Vietnam photo
 

Originally Posted by Head Turner
The nurses are holding a ball tonight.


Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
(Bloke in foreground) "have you noticed how one bollock's always smaller and lower than the other one?"

So we assuming the bloke in the foreground is a nurse then?

I'll get my coat.....

NickLappos 14th Jan 2006 20:34

Re: Vietnam photo
 
finalchecksplease,
I knocked in the chin window of Huey once with the concussion from a 2.75" rocket burst. He was extracting some Rangers, and the bad guys were close. He thanked me later, drafty flight home and all.

Regarding SASless and the holes in his Chinook, I never had a chance to put them there, but I told him later I now have a 30-06 and could make amends......

B Sousa 14th Jan 2006 20:42

Re: Vietnam photo
 

How many ways are there to heat canned rations without heat tabs?
You had to know someone to get those things. Marines never got them (H&S 1/9/3)

And there were 5 Cigarettes in a C Pack...No cigars. Full packs in 5/1 Rats

SASless 14th Jan 2006 22:46

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Lordy...grant me patience! And...I want it righ now!

No Blue on Blue...sorryo...it was a case of the bad guys having a good day....granted it could have been outsourced because the Cav Cobra guys were busy waxing their mustaches and creasing their Stetsons just so.

Bert....SP (supplement pack) were issued in addition to C's....but probably held back by the H and S pogues in the rear.

Nick's account is more than true....despite my pin sticking...I am here because of some gunship pilot's good work. What a thrill seeing rockets passing under the nose from one side to the other....while on short final...mumbling something like a Gregorian Chant over the radio....loosely translated as "You do see the gunpit on my left side Gunslinger? I would be most appreciative if you could distract his attention for the next few seconds if you can, please?" and the whole time knowing either the Gunship Pilot got the bad guy boresighting his recently imported Chinese big bore machinegun using me as the big as a barn target, or it was going to be an exceedingly bad day for the visitors.

I have sent a case of beer to the Gun Platoon hooch on occasions.

bellfest 15th Jan 2006 04:21

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Back to the captions:
Three men front right
"Put that cigarette out you stupid b***ard, the gooks will smell it!"

rotorfan 15th Jan 2006 05:27

Re: Vietnam photo
 
heard over comm "Last one down buys the beer!"

Heliport 15th Jan 2006 08:32

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Interesting tales from the Vietnam years.
Thanks guys.
Hope you'll share some more.

Heliport.

SASless 15th Jan 2006 13:07

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Heating canned rations...Chinook style.

Place can in the exhaust of a engine...fire up the APU...motor the engine for about a minute....shut off the APU....retrieve can...open...enjoy.

Place can on lip of combining tranny....wait 10-15 minutes....retrieve can...enjoy you inflight meal.

Place a small piece of C-4 (about the size of a sugar cube) on the armor plate behind the cargo hook hatch, put match to it...and hold can over the flame using a pair of pliers. Again..savour a hot meal.

Warnings....

Do not stomp on the burning C-4 if any remains burning after heating your meal....could alter your dancing steps for life. Also...don't let any mature adult see you using this method as you are surrounded by 7200 pounds of jetfuel and a very expensive helicopter. The Safety Officer would have a coronary!

The inflight method had some cautions too....

One afternoon, rations cooking on the combining gearbox....over Indian Country....a very loud "BOOM!" sound came from the rear end of the aircraft. Immediate aerobatic maneuvers undertaken...calls of "Where's it coming from...you guys see where it came from" "Anyone hurt?" "Smoke out?" "Shoot back if you see'em!"

No response....then finally after another round of questions...which determined no one hurt...it was not ground fire....and no damage incurred.

That begged the question....."What was it?" Flight Engineer walks to the cockpit licking his fingers....and says..."Hmmmmmm....Beans and Franks I think!"

One must punch a small hole in the top of the can being heated or it might just give you a bit of a scare.

claytona 15th Jan 2006 23:44

Re: "Low level Hell" and "Loach"
 
I have somewhere around 28 Viet Nam pilot books. Low Level Hell is absolutely the best one.
I just got Loach. Looks pretty good.
Clayton A.

SASless 16th Jan 2006 04:03

Re: Vietnam photo
 
Other suggested readings...

Snake Pilot by Randy Zahn

Xin Loi Vietnam by Al Sever

A Code to Keep by Ernie Brace

Brennan's War
Headhunters
Hunter Killer Squadron all by Matthew Brennan

Rattle 17 by Chuck Gross

Into Cambodia by Keith Nolan

The Battle of An Loc by James Wilbanks

Five Years to Freedom by Nick Rowe

When Hell Was In Session by Jeremiah Denton

For Self and Country by Rick Eilert

The Killing Zone
Aftermath both by Frederick Downs


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