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orangeforahead 27th May 2005 21:04

Tonight an R22 at Sherburn in Elmet came a cropper on the airfield. Both occupants OK, machine destroyed.

Oh dear

swordfling 27th May 2005 22:24

Good to hear everyone got out OK.

Heliport 27th May 2005 22:29

I agree.

That's what matters. :ok:

lartsa 28th May 2005 09:01

Another one no injurys thankfully

flyer43 28th May 2005 09:08

Heliport
 
Although I strongly agree that it matters that everybody survived this accident, surely that isn't what really matters. Shouldn't somebody be doing more to identify what is really causing so many of these machines to have accidents and doing something to address the cause(s)?

Heliport 28th May 2005 09:23

My comment was, of course, meant in context.

The safety record of the R22 and its suitability or otherwise for training, are amongst the most researched, discussed and controversial issues in the rotary world in recent years. We've had numerous, sometimes seemingly interminable, discussions here. Strong views are often expressed both ways, sometimes informed comments and sometimes not. I don't know, but I assume research continues.
Incidents/accidents aren't confined to the R22.

H

[email protected] 28th May 2005 10:22

Yes i agree glad no one was hurt, but could these accidents be avoided, how long dose this go on.
The R22 is a lovely helicopter, but as with all machines they will bite. when not respected and flown in the correct manor.
one more fine machine has been lost.:{

idle stop 28th May 2005 10:59

Let's please not have another bout of hysteria about the R22 accident record.
The R22 is around in great numbers, and is frequently used for training, which will, of course, increase the risk of training accidents.
Yes, we're all glad that nobody was badly injured and, yes, it's a pity that another aircraft has ben written off, but Accidents do happen, often the causes can be determined and safety lessons learned. The R22 safety process was given impetus in the 1990s by the high accident rate for an aircraft which had brought helicopter flying within the budget of a lot of new people, was highly popular and being mass produced (at least in aviation terms!). Safety awareness, and modifcations such as the Governor, had a dramatic effect in reducing the incidence of mishaps.
Perhaps folk once said similar things about the accident rate for the Model-T Ford?

eoincarey 28th May 2005 13:49

i presume the r22 was owned by by the local helicopter company there (Hields). Was it a lesson, or a solo. Who was the instructor if there was one aboard? Hope theyre both ok, the instructors up there are really friendly, had a lesson with one at christmas.

ETC

magbreak 28th May 2005 15:37

ooops at Norwich
 
Seems to be a good weekend for this sort of thing... Glad my feet are back on the ground till Monday :O


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4589883.stm

Whirlygig 28th May 2005 16:23

I know the instructor and am so so glad he's OK. I possibly know the student and wish them all the best for a speedy recovery.

I also have over 100 hours in that Schweizer and was flying it yesterday.

Feeling shocked and stunned actually :(

Banjo 28th May 2005 16:54

Glad to see everyone is well which I think we can all agree is the most important thing.

If you teach regularly especially EOL's then you have a good chance of being caught out one day, fact of life the more you do it the more the risk of getting it wrong. Wonder how quick the posts will come in knocking the 300 as a training machine. I have known a few damaged in training accidents but somehow they never seem to attract the same number of posts.

flyer43 28th May 2005 18:04

RE: R22 at Sherburn in Elmet
 
Was this also a training flight, I haven't seen any main news article on it and was just wondering.

TheFlyingSquirrel 28th May 2005 18:15

Whiry - It wasn't the aircraft in question - just confirmed with Captain L.

Whirlygig 28th May 2005 18:34

TFS,

Captain L? I'm sorry but I know of whence I speak.

I do know the instructor and he was one of my instructors (and you'd be hard pushed to find a more experienced, qualified and likeable chap); the student wasn't who I thought it was. I have spoken with the Chief Pilot just now. Both the instructor and student are now OK; the student was discharged from hospital earlier.

Cheers

Whirls

TheFlyingSquirrel 28th May 2005 21:03

Ignore me Whirls - I was sure I knew who you were - obviously not - My mistake ! Have a good weekend !

TFS

Whirlygig 28th May 2005 21:34

You mean to say there is more than one woman who flies a Schweizer, lives in Newbury, rides a Triumph Bonneville, is a Chartered Accountant and amateur musician? Well, I'll be bu$$ered - would love to meet up with her!!

Cheers

Whirls

Red Wine 29th May 2005 01:53

Careful Squirrel....

The real Whirly will out drink you as well......

Billywizz 29th May 2005 12:09

Is this the same Sherburn that had R22 & R44 hit rotors last month?

Whirlybird 29th May 2005 12:17

This may not be what's causing the confusion, but in case it does....

Whirlygig = WHIRLS
Whirlybird = WHIRLY

There, does that help at all? ;)


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