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Gaseous 6th Oct 2009 21:10

I tried it. I put my (full face)shoei on and went for a quick fly about. Hopeless. no attenuation of low frequency noise at all and totally horrid in a hot cockpit with the visor down. Was only up for about 3 minutes and that was too long. My Alpha is built for the job. No comparison, not even close, and it just felt wrong. Maybe an open face would feel better but I wouldnt even consider it. If you can afford to get a PPL and you want a helmet at all, get a proper one. The pain of the cost soon fades. I cant even remember how much mine cost.

I've said it before on this thread but its worth saying again. The Alpha tinted visor alone is enough reason to wear one.

Brilliant Stuff 6th Oct 2009 23:22

My helmet was away for servicing and I had to use the spare headset. That was hard work, not only was I hearing loads of creaking noises the ANR and helmet normally filter out but also not being able to use sunglasses without it getting louder coupled with the fact that the sun manages to enter around the rim making it almost pointless of having the glasses.

If I ever leave my current job I hope I can convince my new employer to allow me to wear helmets.

Gaseous 16th Oct 2009 15:55

Two hours ago I had a very unpleasant experience. As I lifted to the hover and began to back out of a confined area I was stung between the fingers of my left hand by a HORNET!! I almost lost it. The pain was incredible and disorientating. I landed and killed the f****** thing. My hand is now hideously swollen and sore. I didn't see it or feel it on the collective until it stung me. I have seen them before under the canvas cover but not in the cockpit.

My helmet was stored in the aircraft and I hate to think what would have happened if it had been in there.

Just a thought. Check your helmet before you put it on particularly if you leave it in the aircraft.
Insects are on my preflight list now.

I'm still shaking - literally.

farmpilot 16th Oct 2009 17:55

Is anyone else having a problem with their Alpha Eagle visor getting scratched all the time? I have already had one replaced and need another one. I live in Cape Town so it's a pain to get them replaced. My lid is two years old and it's been happening from new.

My mate also has one and he's gone through two already.

Gomer Pylot 16th Oct 2009 18:47

I once had a couple of mosquitoes get inside my headset, and remain quiet and unmoving until I was on short final to a platform, when they suddenly woke up and started buzzing and biting. Not as bad as a wasp, of course, but very distracting. I've killed a fair number of wasps and bees in the cockpit, but I usually found them before I cranked. A couple, though, started flying around when I started cranking, and somehow I managed to avoid hotstarting while keeping my attention divided between the TOT and the threat. I keep a pair of leather gloves in my flight bag for dealing with them, along with other tasks.

Brilliant Stuff 16th Oct 2009 19:25

Alpha Eagle seems renowned to scratch it's visor I know of a handful of people who had theirs replaced. Sorry I can't be of any further help.

Daysleeper 16th Oct 2009 19:43


Is anyone else having a problem with their Alpha Eagle visor getting scratched all the time?
Yeah, mine scratched quite quickly. At first I thought something had been left in the helmet bag and migrated between the visor and cover. Now I'm not sure, I suspect the boom mike might be getting up under the hard visor cover but the sizing seems wrong. Sorry not much help!

farmpilot 17th Oct 2009 09:37

It's got to be the cover, I took mine apart and tried to insert a soft thin piece of lens cloth but I then couldn't lower the visor!

Well I guess it's going back the next time I'm in the UK!

O27PMR 17th Oct 2009 17:33

farmpilot

Glad you posted that, I was thinking of trying the same thing, maybe I won't bother now...:ok:

PR

J.A.F.O. 17th Oct 2009 23:09

There is actually a kit to move the cover out.

500e 18th Oct 2009 13:11

There are other sites with the posts regarding damage to visors, again we seem to be doing the R&D for an expensive product, why should the end user foot the bill.

O27PMR 18th Oct 2009 20:33

How about a real carbon fibre rigid cover with a soft lining, rather than a mock carbon cover which can flex and scratch the visors?

Surely it wouldn't be the hardest thing to design:ugh:

PR

jab 18th Oct 2009 20:40

Farmpilot

I used an Alpha in SA years ago and wrote off a visor because that useless, flexible visor cover got pressed against it in my helmet bag and then scratched it as the bag got moved around.

I bought another Alpha Eagle a couple of years ago and for the above reason also got the NVG visor cover which is very rigid and I have not had problems again.

farmpilot 19th Oct 2009 11:12

It looks like most people are having problems with their lids. I'm going to 'chat' with headset services and see what they propose. It's now a hazard as I can't use the visor.

Will let you know.

500e 19th Oct 2009 16:11

So jab farmpilot Daysleaper & a lot of others are saying is you were sold a product that had\ has a design fault, there is a cure but the manufacturer ignores the problem, (how many times have I heard "You are the only person who has complained") and we the user\ buyer pays,
Rely telling remark JAFO good customer relations, the cure is supply the device so as not to self destruct, if only one cover made there need not be a price increase due to inventory and manufacturing savings.
These are not cheap items, If your visor is being damaged by poor design \ manufacture COMPLAIN, Ask for rigid cover and new visors At no cost including shipping! & keep asking.
There are customers looking for helmets who will look at other options, or not buy one.

John Eacott 19th Oct 2009 22:02

I've found the same solution as jab: NVG visor cover is far more robust, and doesn't seem to have the same scratching problem on the visor as the standard piece of kit.

NVG one weighs more, unfortunately :(

farmpilot 20th Oct 2009 06:55

I've sent an email, I'll let you know the outcome......

farmpilot 27th Oct 2009 18:48

Had a mail back from Headset services. The cover has been re designed and will be sent to me under warranty along with a replacement visor - cant ask more than that! :ok:

Paddyviking 27th Oct 2009 19:39

ANR V's CEP
 
Has anyone had any experience of using ANR or CEP in a helmet and which works best for cockpit noise/vibration reduction
Any comments for or against either

Pv

Gomer Pylot 28th Oct 2009 02:02

CEP works for me. The combination of earplugs and having the speaker in the ear gives higher noise reduction than any ANR system, and excellent clarity. Plus, no need for batteries. The only downside is that it takes a few seconds longer to don the helmet, but even if you're in a hurry, it's not that much longer.


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