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Old 27th Aug 2003, 21:56
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As long as it's not Al Jazeera Airways that sounds like a fab deal. Thanks !
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On that 206 there are a good deal of skin ripples. Is that par for the course in an older machine?
Many of the JetRangers I flew were converted 206A models which had a much lighter guage airframe. The right hand side of the machine is the compression side, so you will see wrinkles like that, under power, in rotorcraft with similar construction.


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The ripples on the right hand fuslage are from nuckelheads throwing gear in the boot.
No, the baggage compartment has a kevlar liner to avoid that.

Also torqe can couse rippling as well.
Yeah.

The dents under the doors are from, you guessed it steelcap saftey boots.
What dents under the door? That machine was two weeks out of the paintshop when the shot was taken. You are looking at reflections in the white enduro paint.

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Old 28th Aug 2003, 10:19
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Having spent 6 years flying with Okanagan Helicopters, I always thought Canadians were mad. Now that I have read this post, I know they are!
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Old 28th Aug 2003, 15:33
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I concur with that Nigel, having done a tour with the CAF, I know they are mad. Hauling down an S61 with a steel hawser and clamping it in steel jaws, while a landing platform the size of a wimpy 4th bedroom, moves +/- 30 degrees left to right or +/- 5 degrees fore and aft, at night in sea state 8 - is just plain mad.

These Canadians, they have NO FEAR
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Old 29th Aug 2003, 19:25
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I concur with that Nigel, having done a tour with the CAF, I know they are mad. Hauling down an S61 with a steel hawser and clamping it in steel jaws, while a landing platform the size of a wimpy 4th bedroom, moves +/- 30 degrees left to right or +/- 5 degrees fore and aft, at night in sea state 8 - is just plain mad.
Those poor Sea Kings get less wear and tear when they are in the air. There is no wonder that they have so many maintenance problems, beaten onto the deck, rolling around all day and immersed in the salt air 24/7.

Forty years from now, we'll have the same comments about whatever replaces her.

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Old 29th Aug 2003, 21:15
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It's ironic.

That probably more Ppruners and guests. Know about this catenary landing pad: than Canadians.

Canadian Rotorhead you have our admiration.
Are there any more photo's of this challenging landing site?
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Old 30th Aug 2003, 10:06
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Are there any more photo's of this challenging landing site?
Yes, I will try to get them scanned and posted somewhere, but right now, I have just unpacked the entire Jeppessen IFR trip kit for the USA and Western Canada. It's going to be a busy weekend sorting those and finding something to hold them together. Those leather binders are pretty expensive for the one trip.

Must be 15 Kg of paperwork alone. Getting very excited about the trip.

I'll try to find a few new pics before I leave.

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Old 5th Oct 2003, 03:25
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Catenary Pics

Sorry, I have been busy, so I haven't been able to dig up any more pictures. I recently flew a Sikorsky 61 to Vancouver from Maturin, Venezuela. Came home to massive hurricane damage leaving fifteen large trees bent over my back yard. Power is still not restored after six days. Internet at work is functioning, but I'll likely be seeing more darkness at home this evening.

My copilot during the ferry flight works full time in Qatar, according to him, the hotel helipad mentioned on this topic is used only for the police there and is closed to the public. Looks like fun though.

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Old 5th Oct 2003, 09:19
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Hey!

I was chatting to Marnik at the fence in West Palm Beach when you were about to leave. SMALL world huh!

Actually saw you guys fly over the hotel on your departure.

Passed the IFR PPC, so it was a good evening in Florida. Hope your stay in Savannah was fun. They say those Savannah gals are quite nice......

Later.
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Old 6th Oct 2003, 23:35
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Hey Steve,

We went West from PBI, ended up in Tallahassee that night, Dallas the next night and a stop in KGCN (Grand Canyon) before the zigzag of MOAs going past Vegas north through Nevada to Reno, then up to Vancouver on the 17th.

Had an excellent Co-pilot and Engineer for the trip. Definitely will try to post some pics when we get power back to our hurricane riddled street.

Stopped in Roswell, NM and later paralleled the "Area 51" fenceline for quite a while enroute to Gallup NM from Dallas.

Marnik is doing his last few weeks as a CHL employee and will be trying to figure out what to do with all his spare time and cash now that he has crossed the fence from "the dark side". Pretty happy guy. We are really happy to have him.

As for those southern controllers, my call sign was a bit much for them. Canadian - Golf - Hotel - Julliet - Uniform was a bit much for them, when I asked my co-driver to confirm a strange takeoff clearance I heard " oh, for God's sake, will you just take off or get off the runway" Two minutes after takeoff, we heard "sorry guys, hot mike" from the same tower controller. The trip went pretty smooth after that. Too funny for words though. The closer to Canada, the better the controllers could handle the five letter call signs. Now they know how we feel with the N-numbers...

Contacting Victoria Terminal was music to my ears...

CDN RH

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Old 10th Nov 2003, 16:14
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Did anyone see the abvert on the UK tv on Sunday the 9th of Nov, it showed the landing pad, with a heli about to lift off and then flew around the front(sea side) to show the restraunt/obs platform then flew away, the caption

"Do something new in your life"

In all a very spectacular ad! well done Sheik Mo
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Old 10th Nov 2003, 17:26
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went up there a couple of years ago[to veiw] when staying there, it gets windy up that height and the heat affects lift would not like to do it very often but i would like to try once
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Old 11th Nov 2003, 03:06
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It's not just that it gets windy at that height.

In the afternoon sea breezes, the surface wind is typically 300/20. However, because the hotel is shaped like a huge sail, the wind on the helipad can be 120/20 - a 180 degree shift in wind on the final stage!
Add that to the size of the building and the turbulence and it makes for a very tricky approach.

Your're right about the heat. The pad is 850' amsl but the DA can be 4,500' in the +45C summer temperatures.


I'd love to be able to say this is all from personal experience, but the info comes from a Dubai based friend who lands there regularly.

Tudor

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Old 11th Nov 2003, 19:26
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Wot he didn't mention the soaring updraught that can change to a plunging downdraught faster than a Bendix Fuel Control can respond!!! Or haven't we sent him up there in the J/R yet?
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Old 22nd Nov 2003, 20:36
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Old 22nd Nov 2003, 21:14
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Eeek!!!

If you saw something like that in a film, you'd think it had to be a special effect. You'd never believe that was doable for real!
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Old 22nd Nov 2003, 23:58
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I bet the old back door muscle twitches a little whilst nearly getting there!
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Old 23rd Nov 2003, 09:56
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I didn't need a seatbelt with all the seat cushion sucked up there!
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Old 23rd Nov 2003, 11:37
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Thanks for the reply CR,

Good to hear Marnik is fitting in well. I owe that lad an ale or 12....
Never know I might end up out that end of the island sooner rather than later. I am looking forward to doing some fishing!

Cheers,

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Old 23rd Nov 2003, 17:19
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Great picture and that is one huge spraybar!

But why are they spraying black liquid into the valley?

Oh, no....it's CHEMTRAILS!!
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