Robinson R55? (Merged)
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Try here:
http://www.londonairshow.co.uk/fly/F...donAirShow.pdf
.pdf so you'll need Acrobat to see it, the list of A/C in display are on page 4.
R44/D huh, must admit I missed that when I looked earlier but maybe Franks going to go public with the new '44
http://www.londonairshow.co.uk/fly/F...donAirShow.pdf
.pdf so you'll need Acrobat to see it, the list of A/C in display are on page 4.
R44/D huh, must admit I missed that when I looked earlier but maybe Franks going to go public with the new '44
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I also notice that there are 2 brand new aircraft being shown, namely the Augusta 109 and the Schewizer 300!!
Not the most impressive marketing in the world when they are charging up to £25K for space.
Not the most impressive marketing in the world when they are charging up to £25K for space.
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Should be R44/II
A mis-print and should have stated R44/II.
This is the fuel-injected version of the R44, the Raven II
http://www.robinsonheli.com/ravenii.htm
This is the fuel-injected version of the R44, the Raven II
http://www.robinsonheli.com/ravenii.htm
Solarity!!!!
You have just ruined a really really good thread and decimated the Q for the airshow!
Do they really make helicopters in Augusta? Are the Bells?
You have just ruined a really really good thread and decimated the Q for the airshow!
Do they really make helicopters in Augusta? Are the Bells?
Not quite sure why I'm bothering to go into detail on this, but the error probably lies with whoever transcribed the details from the original Robinson docs into the show brochure. 'II' on a smudgey fax could well look like a 'D'...
After all, we all know how the EH101 got it's name...!
B73
After all, we all know how the EH101 got it's name...!
B73
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I was at the Airlie Beach Safety course in january and Tim Tucker was asked the same question and if I recalled his answer was that if anything it was more likely that it would be bigger and a complete change from the R22/R44 lineage.
Just as the R44 was a stretched R22 the bigger model would be more like a new model "R66" that in the furture would/could be stretched to an R77. The power plant was the problem area.
Now he made a point of saying he DIDN'T know anything and wasn't speaking officially and had no inside information. All this was said with some little upward curls at the edge of his lips and a twinkle in his eye.
Was he giving us a furphy to help the rumour mill. I don't know.
Just as the R44 was a stretched R22 the bigger model would be more like a new model "R66" that in the furture would/could be stretched to an R77. The power plant was the problem area.
Now he made a point of saying he DIDN'T know anything and wasn't speaking officially and had no inside information. All this was said with some little upward curls at the edge of his lips and a twinkle in his eye.
Was he giving us a furphy to help the rumour mill. I don't know.
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Well, having been to the factory this last Feb, Tim's story at this time is that the design is frozen, awaiting the powerplant type to be used, turbine or likely diesel. Frank tried to get an allison C20, but they balked at the price.
Other than that, I can say that the design is a new one, not a revamp of the 22 or even the 44, but they want to take this design and be able to expand it to even a larger heli, as the 44 was done from the 22. (as RobboRider has said).
Of course the other factory floor is coming along nicely, and should be finished this year ... We'll have to wait and see.
Other than that, I can say that the design is a new one, not a revamp of the 22 or even the 44, but they want to take this design and be able to expand it to even a larger heli, as the 44 was done from the 22. (as RobboRider has said).
Of course the other factory floor is coming along nicely, and should be finished this year ... We'll have to wait and see.
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What about those sweet new Bombardier GA engines? I've been looking at one bolted to the front of a big ol' Murphy taildragger - it's a liquid cooled, turbocharged 320 HP overhead-cam V6. A neat, clean and compact powerplant! It would easily be good for 290 HP continuous, and it starts with the turn of a key - dual-redundant EFI and electronic ignition.
I'd take that in a heartbeat, especially with a 4-bladed rotor!
I'd take that in a heartbeat, especially with a 4-bladed rotor!
Doesn't matter if they're re-engining the R44. A wider CG range would help - me plus a 170lb front seat passenger plus 370lb in the back, and min fuel for the 1.5 hour round trip means the CG is too far forward.
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I talked to the director of engineering about this. He flew into my airport the day before HAI since they had to get fuel. I work as the unicomm behind the desk and I posed the question about an R66 or a turbine. He said there was nothing going on. Just research on different things and that nothing has been finalized. So i guess we wait.... 
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According to an article in a flight magazine, Mr Robinson has said that he's working on a design for a 5 seater aircraft.
The problem he has is the power plant. A turbine would be too costly, a turbocharged piston to complex and a diesel too heavy. His choice would be for a diesel but no decision has been made yet.
Also he's not looking at this year or next year for the new heli!
The problem he has is the power plant. A turbine would be too costly, a turbocharged piston to complex and a diesel too heavy. His choice would be for a diesel but no decision has been made yet.
Also he's not looking at this year or next year for the new heli!
