Mi 24 - pics and pilot's perspective
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GunsssR4ever
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Some Answers and Pics ..
Lo BlenderPilot. Tx for your interesting questions. I will try and answer them ...
Pictures : Tuesday after the long weekend.
APU : ALL Mi-24's can ONLY be started with an APU. No APU - no start. Ok I know there is a "jippo" way but take it as the ONLY way. Yes different Mi-8 / 17's start with battery or APU.
Mi-8T model starts with batteries, MT and MTV (as far as I remeber with APU).. will find out. Also tailrotor on different sides.
I start the APU with raw battery power. Yes the APU can Power up a camp. But.... it has a half an hour continues run time - so yes but with restrictions.
Yes it can be flown front and rear but the front is VERY 5hit. Very akward seating position in relation to stick and rudders. Remember the Russian Crew Commander / Mission Commander / Gunner sat in the front - normally can not fly. Only the front cockpit crew member can arm the armament with a series of circuit breakers. Russian doctrine for escaping Pilot's ? Very little outside / side front views - no mirrors.
Remeber the aircraft flies at about an 8 degree nose down position. Then sight improves a lot !
Normal Cruise at 260 to 280 km/h with the new engines. Old one's 140 kts.
VNE 320 km/h.
Communications : Very sad and very bad ...
It works out the wind drift for you via doppler for the armament panel - old sytemn but it works :up
Tim Bamber took this picture of me searching for them when they "got lost" on a Sierra Leonean Navy Boat off the Island off Bonthe - far out at sea and I was NOT impressed ! Note the 8 degrees nse down during normal flight. Sorry I do not have pics that shows the nose - down any better. The Smoking engines are standard .. worry when they do not smoke a bit
My first landing on a Ship - ever .. and it was on Her Majesty's Ship .. uhmm yes with a Russian Gunship - how times have changed
I nearly wet my pants as this marshaller was obviously used to less wind resistance than a very heavy Mi-24. His breasts started to flap as we landed - sjees It was very hard to concentrate
I was nearly wet !
Pictures : Tuesday after the long weekend.
APU : ALL Mi-24's can ONLY be started with an APU. No APU - no start. Ok I know there is a "jippo" way but take it as the ONLY way. Yes different Mi-8 / 17's start with battery or APU.
Mi-8T model starts with batteries, MT and MTV (as far as I remeber with APU).. will find out. Also tailrotor on different sides.
I start the APU with raw battery power. Yes the APU can Power up a camp. But.... it has a half an hour continues run time - so yes but with restrictions.
Yes it can be flown front and rear but the front is VERY 5hit. Very akward seating position in relation to stick and rudders. Remember the Russian Crew Commander / Mission Commander / Gunner sat in the front - normally can not fly. Only the front cockpit crew member can arm the armament with a series of circuit breakers. Russian doctrine for escaping Pilot's ? Very little outside / side front views - no mirrors.
Remeber the aircraft flies at about an 8 degree nose down position. Then sight improves a lot !
Normal Cruise at 260 to 280 km/h with the new engines. Old one's 140 kts.
VNE 320 km/h.
Communications : Very sad and very bad ...
It works out the wind drift for you via doppler for the armament panel - old sytemn but it works :up
Tim Bamber took this picture of me searching for them when they "got lost" on a Sierra Leonean Navy Boat off the Island off Bonthe - far out at sea and I was NOT impressed ! Note the 8 degrees nse down during normal flight. Sorry I do not have pics that shows the nose - down any better. The Smoking engines are standard .. worry when they do not smoke a bit
My first landing on a Ship - ever .. and it was on Her Majesty's Ship .. uhmm yes with a Russian Gunship - how times have changed
I nearly wet my pants as this marshaller was obviously used to less wind resistance than a very heavy Mi-24. His breasts started to flap as we landed - sjees It was very hard to concentrate
I was nearly wet !
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From: NL
Hi there Gunship!!
Did you manage to get any information about the Manufacturer number of your Mi-24 Hind and the one that is at the internation airport?
I hope you will manage to get these for me.... and everybody who is interested in Mi-24 histories.
I have found a picture of the little plate that contains the manufacturer number. Have a look at this website:
http://www.dse.nl/~mvdburgt/index.htm
Sometimes also the number is painted on the side of the wings, on the fuselage under the wings, or in the inside of the cabinedoors. But I think you can also find this russian number in the logbooks.
I hope to hear from you again!
And by the way, great pictures!!!
Best regards,
Martin
Did you manage to get any information about the Manufacturer number of your Mi-24 Hind and the one that is at the internation airport?
I hope you will manage to get these for me.... and everybody who is interested in Mi-24 histories.
I have found a picture of the little plate that contains the manufacturer number. Have a look at this website:
http://www.dse.nl/~mvdburgt/index.htm
Sometimes also the number is painted on the side of the wings, on the fuselage under the wings, or in the inside of the cabinedoors. But I think you can also find this russian number in the logbooks.
I hope to hear from you again!
And by the way, great pictures!!!
Best regards,
Martin
Last edited by mi24history; 26th April 2003 at 01:47.
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From: NL
Are you still out there??
Hi Gunship,
Are you still out there??
Did you find my link to my website with the photo's of the manufacturer number of the great Mi-24?
Do you think you will have a possiblility to have a look at the manufacturer number of your Hind?
I hope to hear from you again...
Mi24history
Are you still out there??
Did you find my link to my website with the photo's of the manufacturer number of the great Mi-24?
Do you think you will have a possiblility to have a look at the manufacturer number of your Hind?
I hope to hear from you again...
Mi24history
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GunsssR4ever
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Sorry fellow drivers ..
Hate to make promises and not fulfill them .. very sorry guys - especially Mi-24 history.
I took un - expected trip back to SA and had a shouder op in the mean time.
I am back now but the weather is realy cr@p ... whenever it clears I will make work of your requests !
ohhhh - ok now I see your photo's on your web page - oh that is easy - I will do that tomorrow - to get to the top would have been a mission ... suicide mission
Cheers and all the best !
G U N S H I P
I took un - expected trip back to SA and had a shouder op in the mean time.
I am back now but the weather is realy cr@p ... whenever it clears I will make work of your requests !
ohhhh - ok now I see your photo's on your web page - oh that is easy - I will do that tomorrow - to get to the top would have been a mission ... suicide mission
Cheers and all the best !
G U N S H I P
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GunsssR4ever
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From: Out there somewhere ...
Serial Numbers ...
Lo Mi24history et al,
Well it was much easier than I thought when the rain cleared.
I think it is just right to all that I do not publish the serial numbers on a public forum so I will PM them to you as I see you are a fanatic.
What I can tell the public forum is that I think the number that was displayed on your web page do not conform to the usual numbers.
730 703 is 6 numbers (uhmm obviously)
We do not have our numbers displayed in the "radio compartment " as it is known.
I found the numbers on the inside of the troop compartment door. Ours here (and on the TOP of the logbook was displayed in 5 figures NOT six like yours.
All the numbers that my collueges ? could come up with their experience started with a 1 or 2 and yours with a 3 ? Maybe a newer version ?
Interestingly the numbers in the door and the book on the servicable one differ ...
**12* in the door and **21* in the book !
I could not see the number when I took the pic (very harsh direct sunlight after lotsa rain) and when I looked at the digital images this morning I saw the different result.
I also saw the manufacturers date on the plate as being 1880 and the book being 1980 - wonder who is right.
Martin oh just another thing nothing was painted on the wings or under them .. just a PLATE on the inside of the passenger / troop compartment.
Pics of the rotorhead as requested coming up ....
Hope I have been helpfull ...
Well it was much easier than I thought when the rain cleared.
I think it is just right to all that I do not publish the serial numbers on a public forum so I will PM them to you as I see you are a fanatic.
What I can tell the public forum is that I think the number that was displayed on your web page do not conform to the usual numbers.
730 703 is 6 numbers (uhmm obviously)
We do not have our numbers displayed in the "radio compartment " as it is known.
I found the numbers on the inside of the troop compartment door. Ours here (and on the TOP of the logbook was displayed in 5 figures NOT six like yours.
All the numbers that my collueges ? could come up with their experience started with a 1 or 2 and yours with a 3 ? Maybe a newer version ?
Interestingly the numbers in the door and the book on the servicable one differ ...
**12* in the door and **21* in the book !
I could not see the number when I took the pic (very harsh direct sunlight after lotsa rain) and when I looked at the digital images this morning I saw the different result.
I also saw the manufacturers date on the plate as being 1880 and the book being 1980 - wonder who is right.
Martin oh just another thing nothing was painted on the wings or under them .. just a PLATE on the inside of the passenger / troop compartment.
Pics of the rotorhead as requested coming up ....
Hope I have been helpfull ...
