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Old 6th November 2024 | 00:36
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Konner amphib helicopter

Might be a solution looking for a problem, but hey ho, you can't stifle innovation. What was the last amphib, 61? 206 or 47 or R22 on jiggly floats?


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I think he's just giving the hard to reach bottom a wash Having the capability on the off shore types could save the weight and complexity of pop outs, but I'm sure there are other considerations at play, such as stability. Over to the experts.

Have time in the 206 and 205 on fixed floats, autos to water were great fun, as was starting/shutting down while adrift.
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Interesting and good on 'em.

I was thinking, if one of the skids gets snagged on some underwater plants / branch or a cable or something, maybe it could result in a rollover when power is pulled. Unless the water can act as a way to dampen the effect.
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Well, I've only landed a helicopter in the water a couple of times, but I have landed airplanes in the water thousands of times. Sure, in the calm conditions shown in the video, water work is straight forward, but once the wind, waves, and an uncertain bottom are factored in, a good outcome is much less certain. I've trained enough floatplane pilots to know that all of them had very unrealistic expectations of the water conditions which could be accepted for a landing. At least floatplanes and flying boat airplanes are decently stable in all directions. I would be very cautious of this helicopter perhaps landing into the waves or swells, then turning for whatsoever reason (including a floating start) and becoming sideways in the waves or swells, and being very much less stable.

And it's one thing to drift into shore in a seaplane, it's different when a rotor is projecting out in all directions. I've had wingtips in the branches many times, no problem. Big problem with rotor, even if not turning.

It looks like an attractive idea, as long as the pilot has very conservative expectations of suitable water conditions, and operating limitations.
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The one thing you don’t want whilst flying is an uncertain bottom.
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The one thing you don’t want whilst flying is an uncertain bottom.
Indeed, particularly when you're drifting in the water, sideways with the current/wind, and those skids sticking down!
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What are the limits for slope landings on water? ;-)
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Watching it cruise around that lake, it looked like a ride at Disney World, lol.
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Video didn’t show up on my feed for some reason so am reposting one in case others have the same problem.
Also the company blurb where I see the skids are retractable for water landings.
https://www.konnerhelicopters.com/en
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What are the limits for slope landings on water? ;-)
If someone’s waterskiing without a boat, it’s out of limits…
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I dig it! What a fun idea. I'd be worried about the bending moment at the attach point of that tall tail rotor pylon...and the reliability of that (bespoke?) TK250 engine, but other than that, it'd be a cool toy to have.
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