Ukraine Blackhawk

[chopper2004]

Hmmm did we miss sie thing in Bidens speech recently re Ukraine as their Mil spooks seem to have a Blackhawk in their inventory

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[KiwiNedNZ]

Was bought commercially. It used to be Ace Aeronautics Hawk that they did all their testing on and was sold privately to the Ukraine.

[rudestuff]

The pedant in me says it's highly unlikely that the Ukrainians would have a Blackhawk...

[havick]

Originally Posted by KiwiNedNZ

Was bought commercially. It used to be Ace Aeronautics Hawk that they did all their testing on and was sold privately to the Ukraine.

Guess they bamboozled DOS/ITAR that it’s end use was for firefighting?

[KiwiNedNZ]

Havick, nope they applied for and got export approvals. Sold it directly to that customer.

[212man]

Originally Posted by havick

Guess they bamboozled DOS/ITAR that it’s end use was for firefighting?

Maybe it’s an S70i from Poland? They’re non-ITAR I think.

[KiwiNedNZ]

Its a UH-60 not S-70i.

[chopper2004]

Originally Posted by KiwiNedNZ

Was bought commercially. It used to be Ace Aeronautics Hawk that they did all their testing on and was sold privately to the Ukraine.

Thanks Ned, thought so looking at the color scheme…but didn’t twig as last time I saw Ace Aero Hawk was Heli expo 2019 in Atlanta.

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[chopper2004]

More from The Aviationist on this

https://theaviationist.com/2023/04/1...iN254oMnJ3zV2k

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[chopper2004]

Now 2

https://theaviationist.com/2024/03/1...hab_N1FA1gnAVI



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[Lonewolf_50]

The article suggests that at least one of them was purchased via Crowd Funding for about six million bucks.

The Russians posted online a video of the alleged helicopter taken from a UAV and, while video quality doesn’t allow to ID exactly the aircraft, the tail boom shown is resembling more the Mi-24’s one than the UH-60’s. Either way, neither helicopter can transport 20 fully equipped soldiers.

I suspect that Mr Dixson might be able to share a story or two about how many can fit into a Blackhawk when you pull out all of the seats and stuff troops in ... Might stuff 20 in.

[SASless]

A lot more probably.

[JohnDixson]

Good guess LW! During the competition with the French for the Turkish Jandama award, we got rid of all the seats except for the two gunners seats ( occupied by two SA crew-one former USMC 53 Crewchief and one former 82nd Airborne H-60 Crewchief ). Laced the floor with a matrix of US military cargo tie-down straps and regularly carried 26 combat loaded Jandarma infantry.
Forgot to add: One of our former Vietnam Cav pilots had 53 in the back….but just the troops-no weapons ammo etc.
Some background: this fly-off competition consisted of a six month long tactical/maintenance/mountain performance evaluation in far eastern Turkey. Missions were to move and support Turkish Jandarma units as they pursued the PKK terrorist units. Jandarma officer on each flight to monitor and report.

[NutLoose]

First one

https://www.wearethemighty.com/milit...wk-helicopter/

As the only Black Hawk in Ukrainian service, N60FW is used to support special forces. The DIU reports that its performance far exceeds the Mi-8 and Mi-24. "The helicopter impresses with its reliability, ease of operation and combat survivability," the Black Hawk's flight engineer said in a DIU news statement. The helicopter's pilot, who has experience on the Mi-8 and Mi-24, noted that he was able to fly the Black Hawk on the first day after just a few hours in the cockpit.

The second one is possibly the Czech crowd funded one?

https://www.zbraneproukrajinu.cz/kampane/cestmir

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/...er-to-ukraine/

On 17 November a group of Czech volunteers called Darek pro Putina (Gift for Putin) will begin collecting donations to buy a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter for Ukraine, the organisation announced on 15 November.