Longline rescue - Mt Cook Summit
The single engine, day vfr longline ships have their place, but they are severely limited for anything other than the type of rescue performed here.
Well being picked up off a very hard climb above The Mer de Grace ( climbing partner took a big lead fall and broke his ankle as he caught his Koflach on the ledge I was belaying from as he cam past ) got me into helicopter flying. Mind you it cost £ 2500 and that was 40 years ago in an Alouette 3 but that is The French for you
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The point of the bells and whistles is to be able to carry out said rescue(s) in all weather and any time of day/night. Good luck doing that with any relative safety in a VFR single with a longline.
The single engine, day vfr longline ships have their place, but they are severely limited for anything other than the type of rescue performed here.
The single engine, day vfr longline ships have their place, but they are severely limited for anything other than the type of rescue performed here.
guess we are simply at an impasse as the time and place and right tool for the job at hand.
It doesn’t hurt to have a tool in your garage that works for 50% of scenarios.
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No s*it. But there’s often a non vmc conditions between where the helicopter obviously originates and where the scene is.
guess we are simply at an impasse as the time and place and right tool for the job at hand.
It doesn’t hurt to have a tool in your garage that works for 50% of scenarios.
guess we are simply at an impasse as the time and place and right tool for the job at hand.
It doesn’t hurt to have a tool in your garage that works for 50% of scenarios.
So as long as you don't need rescuing in the dark or in bad weather you'll be absolutely fine..........
Extra grunt and bells and whistles can definitely improve your comfort zone, but, occasionally, just basic ingenuity is what's needed ...
Master Pilot Ron P*** and crew in a piston Whirlwind taking an overload off the Goodwin Sands by doing the last pickup 'on the run', for example The best S&R 'training' is done on 'ops' !
Master Pilot Ron P*** and crew in a piston Whirlwind taking an overload off the Goodwin Sands by doing the last pickup 'on the run', for example The best S&R 'training' is done on 'ops' !
Point is, yes it costs money to pick up some.. less smart, or plain unfortunate people, but it's still the best option there is. No, being charged for rescues has been shown to NOT be an effective deterrence for dangerous behavior, as nobody thinks it will happen to them anyway. Nobody goes out thinking they may come back on a winch, especially not those daredevils, like the base jumpers that are usually mentioned here.
Lastly, if we want to reduce the burden on society creates by unnecessary health care cost, we would have to first charge anyone who participates in team sports like football, or the other football (which are incredibly injury prone in general), and of course anyone who consumes chips and beer, because those associated costs are many, many orders of magnitude higher than those of an occasional hiker extraction. The rescue in that video may have cost some five figure sum, and will still be "cheaper" than what someone's self inflicted Diabetes costs "us" every month. We can then also point out that someone who climbs mountains for entertainment is far less likely to suffer these other conditions... At the latest at this point, the proposal usually loses public support.
Good post lelebebbel
In Un Zud there is the Accident Compensation Corporation that covers everyone in the country - even tourists and visitors. (Not that there are many there at the moment).
As there are so many "adventure sports" ACC covers basically everybody and removes the right to sue. Tort reform.
Kind of the complete opposite to the USA.
Is it a "good idea"? Maybe, but it is what it is. ACCNZ
As there are so many "adventure sports" ACC covers basically everybody and removes the right to sue. Tort reform.
ACC is the sole and compulsory provider of accident insurance in New Zealand for all work and non-work related injuries. The corporation administers the ACC Scheme on a no-fault basis, so that anyone, regardless of the way in which they suffered an injury, has coverage under the scheme. Due to the scheme's no-fault basis, people who have suffered personal injury do not have the right to sue an at-fault party, except for exemplary damages
Is it a "good idea"? Maybe, but it is what it is. ACCNZ
The NZ ACC scheme has one pleasing effect - children’s playgrounds are a lot more fun than those here in Oz. Councils here are so risk averse because of the insurance premiums they must pay that all the dangerous but fun stuff has been removed. Can’t sue in NZ so no problem! Same explanation for the many dangerous activities for adults in the land of the long white cloud.