Joe Bidens helicopters at Northolt
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You know what hapenned when those rotors touch eachother, right!
wihtout the depth persepective it looks chilling to see them so close to each other.
After lift off, it looks like a rate of climb contest,
was waiting for the puma to outclimb them all...but the 145 won
wihtout the depth persepective it looks chilling to see them so close to each other.
After lift off, it looks like a rate of climb contest,
was waiting for the puma to outclimb them all...but the 145 won
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From: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
A random gaggle is far safer with mixed types, especially when they’re not even from the same unit and haven’t practiced together before. I certainly wouldn’t expect anything like Red Arrows precision!
TBH, the biggest threat to safety in those circumstances is a blue on blue mid-air!
TBH, the biggest threat to safety in those circumstances is a blue on blue mid-air!
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From: Wildest Surrey
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Last time I checked the Puma has a Lever on the left side of the Pilot's chair that controls the speed of the aircraft....pull up...it can go faster....lower it a bit...it goes slower.....or has that changed?
Now cue the CFS types with their colored pencil sets to explain all of this to the unwashed.
Now cue the CFS types with their colored pencil sets to explain all of this to the unwashed.
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From: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
Shooooulderrrrr.... CHIPS!
When I flew them for ten years they could fly at a whole range of speeds.
CFS? You mean coloured, obviously.
When I flew them for ten years they could fly at a whole range of speeds.
CFS? You mean coloured, obviously.
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The presidential helicopters change their position within their formation all the time for security reasons. That's routine.
If you have a decent DAS then moving around the sky makes no difference.
Changing position to play switcheroo, which one has the POTUS, is pointless - if you can take one down you would take both to be sure.
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The concept is called "security theater". It provides the ignorant with the feeling and appearance of security where none actually exists. There's a lot of that in the security business all around the world. It's actually pretty amazing there isn't more terrorism, etc. than there is. There is no lack of tactics, techniques and technology, there is only the lack of will.
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From: Den Haag
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Do please explain why.
If you have a decent DAS then moving around the sky makes no difference.
Changing position to play switcheroo, which one has the POTUS, is pointless - if you can take one down you would take both to be sure.
If you have a decent DAS then moving around the sky makes no difference.
Changing position to play switcheroo, which one has the POTUS, is pointless - if you can take one down you would take both to be sure.
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From: Den Haag
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Well can you explain why they do it oh tactics guru?
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From: Downeast
Look back at the attacks on US Presidents....it is not a Terrorist with a Manpad....but rather a lone crazed gunman (or gun woman) that gets them.....discounting the JFK Assassination which still remains unsolved with any real satisfaction.
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From: Wildest Surrey
Last time I checked the Puma has a Lever on the left side of the Pilot's chair that controls the speed of the aircraft....pull up...it can go faster....lower it a bit...it goes slower.....or has that changed?
Now cue the CFS types with their colored pencil sets to explain all of this to the unwashed.
Now cue the CFS types with their colored pencil sets to explain all of this to the unwashed.
