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Old 18th Feb 2021, 21:29
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Contra-rotating helicopter now based on Mars

Fellow Rotorheads, I think it's a great time to jointly celebrate the fact that a rotary-winged unmanned aircraft is now based on Mars following NASAs successful Perseverance Rover landing today. When it launches for an area survey we should collectively (yes pun intended) celebrate pushing aerodynamic lift aviation frontiers further, higher and more distant from Earth than any fixed wing lift machine ever did ! Aptly named Ingenuity. pp.


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Old 18th Feb 2021, 21:45
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Originally Posted by peterperfect View Post
Fellow Rotorheads, I think it's a great time to jointly celebrate the fact that a rotary-winged unmanned aircraft is now based on Mars following NASAs successful Perseverance Rover landing today. When it launches for an area survey we should collectively (yes pun intended) celebrate pushing aerodynamic lift aviation frontiers further, higher and more distant from Earth than any fixed wing lift machine ever did ! Aptly named Ingenuity. pp.

This is pretty awesome!!
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 00:28
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Thanks for sharing, didn't know they were doing this. Proud to be a helicopter fan today!
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 00:49
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More news here

When will the helicopter launch?

It will be around 10 sols - or Martian days which are about 40 minutes longer than Earth days - before Nasa plans to deploy its onboard helicopter.

It will be the first remote flight on another planet, and is one of the most exciting elements of the Perseverance project.

Scientists say about five flights are planned for the helicopter, dubbed Ingenuity, over the next 30 days.


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/scienc...nment-56101496
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 02:31
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Nice article in the Smithsonian Air and Space Magazine:

NASA's Helicopter Ingenuity Will Attempt the First Flight on Mars | Science | Smithsonian Magazine
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How and where will it shelter in a (dust) storm? Could the rover come along and to some degree protect this rotor craft?
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 05:11
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it is packed into the rover, and comes down from bellow the rover under belly
Very thin air on Mars, those propelers run at 2500RPM, very short autonomy too.
usefull life of the helicopter is limited to 30 flights I think I heard.
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 06:43
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If they want a pilot to go to Mars to fly a helicopter in the future as it takes 7 years to travel each way, as I haven't got 14 years left in me, I think I'll give it a miss!
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 06:43
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix View Post
How and where will it shelter in a (dust) storm? Could the rover come along and to some degree protect this rotor craft?
Wasn't one of the surprising things learnt about Mars is the wind and dust is very light.
I seem to recall previous rovers were expected to have a limited life span due to dust build up on the solar panels but this never happened. Which is why the older rovers are still going, or at least went for a lot longer than expected.
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 06:44
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That Smithsonian article is well worth a read - as a technology demonstrator it is an incredible achievement, it weighs less than 4 lbs and will fly at an Earth equivalent of 100,000'!!!
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Does the operator need a licence or permit to pilot the helicopter on Mars and who woukd they apply too
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 07:49
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it takes 7 years to travel each way
Launched on 30 July 2020; nearer seven months.
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Does the operator need a licence or permit to pilot the helicopter on Mars and who woukd they apply too
Don’t think so unless Marvin works for the Martian CAA. (We don’t want any “Earth Shattering Kabooms”).
I think it’s all uncontrolled airspace.anyhow and there are no 5 Star hotels for the inspectors to stay in so chances of a base inspection are slim to nil.
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
Launched on 30 July 2020; nearer seven months.
Yep, and Elon Musk/SpaceX reckon they can get it down to one month!

They didn't say how.
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Originally Posted by Agile View Post
it is packed into the rover, and comes down from bellow the rover under belly
Very thin air on Mars, those propelers run at 2500RPM, very short autonomy too.
usefull life of the helicopter is limited to 30 flights I think I heard.
Never underestimate the power of a droid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_(rover) - expected life 90 sols, actual life >5,000 sols
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 11:30
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
Yep, and Elon Musk/SpaceX reckon they can get it down to one month!

They didn't say how.
Its all about power. Refuelling a spacecraft like Starship in earthorbit should solve the problem. The part from launchpad to orbit needs most power

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Originally Posted by Nigel Osborn View Post
If they want a pilot to go to Mars to fly a helicopter in the future as it takes 7 years to travel each way, as I haven't got 14 years left in me, I think I'll give it a miss!
Who said anything about coming back? Let's have some commitment here.
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Old 19th Feb 2021, 14:29
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Anyone know if a UK licence is ok there ?
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Originally Posted by albatross View Post
Don’t think so unless Marvin works for the Martian CAA. (We don’t want any “Earth Shattering Kabooms”).
I think it’s all uncontrolled airspace.anyhow and there are no 5 Star hotels for the inspectors to stay in so chances of a base inspection are slim to nil.
so, one could get in to business without a local license and other nonsense. Where can one sign?
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We have all been fooled by Martians


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