Scatsta IAC

[Abdulbandul]

So I hear on the grape vine that Bristow have lost the IAC contract to Babcock...

[Same again]

Is this the same Babcock who are withdrawing from offshore O&G contracts? Nice move ;-)

[PlasticCabDriver]

don’t know about winning the IAC, but NHV are advertising for a 169 TRE at Blackpool so perhaps they’ve lost that one.

[helicrazi]

Originally Posted by PlasticCabDriver

don’t know about winning the IAC, but NHV are advertising for a 169 TRE at Blackpool so perhaps they’ve lost that one.

IIRC babcock lost the blackpool contract to nhv last year but nhv couldnt man it, so the customer took a 1 year extension with babcock until nhv could sort things out.

Presuming the 169 vacancy is nhv starting to man the contract I'd expect more vacancies to follow.

standing by to be corrected

[Apate]

Originally Posted by helicrazi

IIRC babcock lost the blackpool contract to nhv last year but nhv couldnt man it, so the customer took a 1 year extension with babcock until nhv could sort things out.

Presuming the 169 vacancy is nhv starting to man the contract I'd expect more vacancies to follow.

standing by to be corrected

Pretty much spot on

[Same again]

How can NHV win a contract (that they have presumably convinced the organisation that they could perform standing on their head at a much lower price with far superior equipment much more competently) and then once awarded it say "Oh sorry we can't do that just yet"? No wonder the industry is in such a mess.

[helicrazi]

Originally Posted by Same again

How can NHV win a contract (that they have presumably convinced the organisation that they could perform standing on their head at a much lower price with far superior equipment much more competently) and then once awarded it say "Oh sorry we can't do that just yet"? No wonder the industry is in such a mess.

Lack of pilots in the market, everyone needs pilots, I can count easily 30 vacancies in the uk market, offshore and onshore, there just aren't enough pilots for positions...

[Hot_LZ]

There are enough pilots. Plenty of pilots. But some companies insist on not paying for the requisite training. NHV for example will not touch anyone without the type rating.

The industry is full of 🤦🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️ examples where the client accepts the fact the operator can not provide what they claimed they could. Our friends in yellow provide another example with the Dutch SAR contract...

LZ

[ApolloHeli]

As a recent CPL/IR pilot with low hours, it certainly doesn’t feel like there is a lack of pilots. Many operators have said no so far.... NHV actually being one of them - as mentioned, might be the lack of type rating.

[helicrazi]

Originally Posted by ApolloHeli

As a recent CPL/IR pilot with low hours, it certainly doesn’t feel like there is a lack of pilots. Many operators have said no so far.... NHV actually being one of them - as mentioned, might be the lack of type rating.

Just wait for the IAC to be announced....

[Same again]

Just wait for the IAC to be announced....

I wouldn't hold your breath for that one. I think in these circumstances you will find that TUPE applies and the Bristow pilots will simply change uniform - again.

[helicrazi]

Originally Posted by Same again

I wouldn't hold your breath for that one. I think in these circumstances you will find that TUPE applies and the Bristow pilots will simply change uniform - again.

Even if TUPE does apply, there isn't that many at Scatsta to take across, the contractors at Scatsta wont be entitled to it.

[Same again]

Perhaps but Bristow contractors will become Babcock contractors.

[helicrazi]

Originally Posted by Same again

Perhaps but Bristow contractors will become Babcock contractors.

Apparently Babcock dont do contractors after IR35....

[Same again]

Then perhaps Babcock will do an NHV and Bristow will get a 12 month extension while Babcock spend a fortune recruiting and training full-time pilots....

[Non-Driver]

Archie Bethel, chief executive of parent company Babcock International, speaking on a 12 February half-year trading update, said that the business “does not intend to invest further to stay in that [offshore] market”.

[cyclic]

NHV for example will not touch anyone without the type rating.

apart from the 8 that are going through or have just gone through their TR. It’s a rumour network but all I can say is that you haven’t networked very well. Perhaps they don’t take the kind of people who just whinge on prune?

[Abdulbandul]

Archie

I just presumed the Babcock statement about leaving O&G was just a bit of corporate bluster a few days before a potential contract announcement. I’d doubt the oil companies would want less operators fighting for their business, especially if they go back to having to pay Bristow prices if nobody else can provide the aircraft.

[Apate]

Originally Posted by Abdulbandul

I just presumed the Babcock statement about leaving O&G was just a bit of corporate bluster a few days before a potential contract announcement. I’d doubt the oil companies would want less operators fighting for their business, especially if they go back to having to pay Bristow prices if nobody else can provide the aircraft.

There are times when I miss a "Like" button on PPRuNe

[Informative lad]

With that confirmed it's the end of an era by the looks of it.