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Coronavirus - HEMS transport of infected patient

Old 5th Feb 2020, 11:44
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Coronavirus - HEMS transport of infected patient

Gooday fellow pilots,
Would like your collective industry thoughts on the HEMS tranportation of an infected 2019-nCoV coronavirus patient in an open cabin/cockpit helicopter please. Thank you.
Shoot with the good, the bad and the ugly of what you would do and would not do. Thanks!
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 19:36
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Originally Posted by Hench View Post
Gooday fellow pilots,
Would like your collective industry thoughts on the HEMS tranportation of an infected 2019-nCoV coronavirus patient in an open cabin/cockpit helicopter please. Thank you.
Shoot with the good, the bad and the ugly of what you would do and would not do. Thanks!
Protection, mask up and crack on
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 19:38
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Underslung ? HEC ?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 19:48
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By road? It's not life or death.. Yet
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 22:58
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Originally Posted by helicrazi View Post
Protection, mask up and crack on
Helicrazi,

Lol, the understanding of “ crack on” doesn’t seem to known worldwide, yet! It is now quite well known amongst the team I work with in downtown Atlanta... along with other comments, like “gobshite”.... need to pull the Oxford English Dictionary out on occasions!

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Old 6th Feb 2020, 10:44
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Be extremely foolish piloting yourself and your medic crew to transport a deadly infectious corovavirus patient to a medical facility in an open cabin/cockpit aircraft, helicopter or airplane. No amount of comfortable, aircraft pilot seat wearable PPE would keep you safe, no matter the short distance to hospital, the virus would remain on the carpets and in the seats covers for a while, and in the a/c system for long time unless you changed the filters - been proven time and time again. You'd be exposing all to the virus, and all those that follow in the aircraft, and at the workplace, and at home. Risk versus reward balance totally against your favour. Vitually all HEMS Operators, my old one too, will not fly contagious patients in their fixed or rotor wing fleet, risk of serious infection or death too high to all concerned, managament and owners included, aicraft badly contaminated, insurance is invalid, the list goes on. And on. And on.
Do not do it, period.
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Old 6th Feb 2020, 11:20
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Get a fleet of MASH style Bell 47s...patient on stretcher outside
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Old 6th Feb 2020, 13:15
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The RAF are suitably equipped to do the transfer
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Old 7th Feb 2020, 09:53
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China has you covered, just fog the inside of the aircraft while everyone is in it still....no worries. (I have to wonder what cancer causing mixture they're using though)

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Old 7th Feb 2020, 10:42
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Wear the old AR5 respirator with 'Whistling Handbag' filtration unit!
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Old 7th Feb 2020, 14:32
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GrayHorizons - that reminds me of the Swingfog device used in Belize to control mossies - the guy used to walk through the Mess with it going full chat. Total IMC for quite a few minutes! Don't know what the chemical was, but I'm still here 30 years later!
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Old 7th Feb 2020, 17:01
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Originally Posted by oldbeefer View Post
GrayHorizons - that reminds me of the Swingfog device used in Belize to control mossies - the guy used to walk through the Mess with it going full chat. Total IMC for quite a few minutes! Don't know what the chemical was, but I'm still here 30 years later!
The "Swingfog" man was nicknamed "Sammy Davis Jnr" during my time there. I was told the "fog" contained DDT. I always took suitable precautions,though - I put a beer mat on top of my pint. There's no flies on me.
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 17:59
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Coronavirus

Is anyone familiar with company sponsored procedures, to prevent spread of the corona in the cockpit?
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 20:31
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Certainly some of the mobile containment solutions could be used.

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how well does that setup handle a post crash fire?
I can only imagine the shrink wrap result if the worst happened.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 06:06
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On Saturday I called 000 for a ambulance to attend a young man with suspected broken ankle.

At the end of the call the operator said “I have to ask you, has the patient visited China in the last two weeks?”

I wondered what measures would be triggered if answering the question in the affirmative.


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Old 9th Feb 2020, 11:47
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MJB - have you seen Monsters Inc?
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 16:33
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Originally Posted by GrayHorizonsHeli View Post
how well does that setup handle a post crash fire?
I can only imagine the shrink wrap result if the worst happened.
Hopefully the probability of a crash is less than being contaminated by coronavirus...
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