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R44 recording device ???

Old 16th Nov 2019, 17:23
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R44 recording device ???

Is there something I can retrofit to an R44 helicopter that will record information regarding rotor speed, engine rpm, manifold pressure etc time of day etc. If I was going to allow a school to use the helicopter I would feel much more comfortable having this information. Thanks. 👍🏻
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Old 16th Nov 2019, 19:12
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Don't worry about it. Should your R44 have an accident PPRuNe will have them sorted for you.
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Old 16th Nov 2019, 19:50
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DAAM System.

Perkins Technologies Australia - spinoff from Larry Perkins - Perkins Engineering. V8 Supercar driver/engineer.

Now owned by TAE Aerospace. Probably does what you want if you are serious and have that sort of coin. It does engine and I think airframe flight data to some extent.

Approvals may be a minefield.

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Old 16th Nov 2019, 20:46
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I believe Robinson are doing this at the moment.
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The easy solution which requires no certification is a go pro looking at the panel. School has to record each flight !
Bit boring looking at all of the footage !!!!!
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Old 16th Nov 2019, 21:30
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R44 and HFDM in UK :
https://www.heliair.com/robinson-r44...onitoring-fdm/
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Old 17th Nov 2019, 04:04
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Contact Choppy Patterson at "Over the Top" Queenstown New Zealand.
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I believe Robinson are doing this at the moment.
Are you saying you can buy such a flight data recorder from Robinson?
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Old 17th Nov 2019, 09:30
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Originally Posted by georgetw View Post
Contact Choppy Patterson at "Over the Top" Queenstown New Zealand.
I'd say "Eyes in the Sky" (the product that georgetw referred to) are on the right track. Some of the other solutions just collect engine data, which is not enough to investigate an accident, let alone to track exceedances.

You need pressure altitude and OAT to determine max cont power, max take-off power, max avail power and VNE. You need IAS to compare against VNE and other prescribed manoeuvre speeds. Etc.

In an aircraft with 'steam gauges' this practically can only be picked up visually. However, as the demo on Patterson's website shows, lack of resolution and ever changing lighting condition including stark shadows can be a formidable challenge when trying to read all this data, let alone have it analysed automatically.
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Old 17th Nov 2019, 10:03
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No yet, but it's coming. They are busy digitising all of the gauges behind the scenes so that the data is available digitally for a recorder. I would expect it to appear across the range in a year or two.
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Originally Posted by bvgs View Post
Is there something I can retrofit to an R44 helicopter that will record information regarding rotor speed, engine rpm, manifold pressure etc time of day etc. If I was going to allow a school to use the helicopter I would feel much more comfortable having this information. Thanks. 👍🏻
Contact Appareo:
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 10:08
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Is there something I can retrofit to an R44 helicopter that will record information regarding rotor speed, engine rpm, manifold pressure etc time of day etc. If I was going to allow a school to use the helicopter I would feel much more comfortable having this information. Thanks. 👍🏻
Sloane Helicopters are the UK's dealer for Gesvol, this system will provide you with all that you require.

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Old 24th Nov 2019, 10:26
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EASA Pushing for Recorders on Small Helicopters

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...ll-helicopters

The European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) is recommending the installation of flight recorders on Part 27 helicopters, those with mtows of 7,000 pounds or less and nine or fewer passenger seats. In a recent EASA safety information bulletin (SIB), EASA said that although the recommendation falls short of a mandate, the agency “recognizes the potential safety enhancement that can be achieved through this equipment.”
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