Helicopter crash in Yorkshire
According to the News, the accident investigation could take up to a year to complete. What a waste of resources when we have our own ‘investigators’ who can come up with a cause within a couple of days. Why are people so quick to give an opinion an the cause of accidents with no real information available?
and it's apparent to everyone.
however, an investigation will encompass everything and that no doubt takes time to complete.
to me its a legal position to ensure no stone is left unturned. but it does no favors for the industry or the people affected
we crave information so that tomorrow the same doesn't happen to others. a year from now is too long to wait for many of us.
unfortunately many of the details that are documented in an investigation are irrelevant, but it's part of the process we have to accept
so even though there is speculation and theories abound, I welcome them for the simple reason it gets people talking and thinking, because thats usually all that is there as a safety net until the actual final report comes out.
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i was taught - if you enter the crap and you cannot see - Go up for a think and ask for help .... NEVER go down for a look ...
Foggles each year can only learn you part of what to do ....
I was due to fly down to London at Lunchtime on the same day - and from 'Yorkshire' but aborted as couldn't see the top of the Pylons....
very sad news indeed... but there is nearly always a common theme.... the weather ...
Foggles each year can only learn you part of what to do ....
I was due to fly down to London at Lunchtime on the same day - and from 'Yorkshire' but aborted as couldn't see the top of the Pylons....
very sad news indeed... but there is nearly always a common theme.... the weather ...
there is nearly always a common theme.... the weather ...
No one has said what caused the accident - the aircraft going IIMC then, I would suggest uncontrolled Flight Into Terrain was the result of a chain of events and decisions that need to be traced back to conception for us all to learn.
I would suggest that the majority of us can give an educated guess as to why the aircraft crashed - the weather was a factor but it did not cause the crash.
It will not be the first crash where the pilot made an error of judgement - alledgedly ...........
I would suggest that the majority of us can give an educated guess as to why the aircraft crashed - the weather was a factor but it did not cause the crash.
It will not be the first crash where the pilot made an error of judgement - alledgedly ...........
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Where there is a fatality there has to be a coroner's inquest for which every scrap of detail must be gathered. Remember the last time you got stuck in traffic because the road had been temporarily closed? Almost certainly a fatality involved. In this instance I think the coroner's inquest will open quite soon so that the human remains can be released but then adjourned until the AAIB have done their stuff and issued their final report. For those that don't know the AAIB will conduct an investigation that will forensically examine the entire flying and medical history of the pilot and the entire history of the aircraft as well as examining the weather, routing and any other relevant subjects.
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According to the News, the accident investigation could take up to a year to complete. What a waste of resources when we have our own ‘investigators’ who can come up with a cause within a couple of days. Why are people so quick to give an opinion an the cause of accidents with no real information available?
One of the best examples were discussions on the Cougar S92 that went down off Newfoundland .... 18 dead ...... within 13 hours people here had pretty much nailed it ..... broken titanium studs on MRG oil filter housing.
It took 3 years for the official report to be released which confirmed the studs failing.
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where there is a fatality there has to be a coroner's inquest for which every scrap of detail must be gathered. Remember the last time you got stuck in traffic because the road had been temporarily closed? Almost certainly a fatality involved. In this instance i think the coroner's inquest will open quite soon so that the human remains can be released but then adjourned until the aaib have done their stuff and issued their final report. For those that don't know the aaib will conduct an investigation that will forensically examine the entire flying and medical history of the pilot and the entire history of the aircraft as well as examining the weather, routing and any other relevant subjects.
I agree ... at least as far as discussions here on this forum .... speculation and guesses (as to the cause) of any incident can be a healthy exercise that stretches our brain to consider all the possibilities ...... and so hopefully pilots and maintenance guys do not make those same mistakes.
One of the best examples were discussions on the Cougar S92 that went down off Newfoundland .... 18 dead ...... within 13 hours people here had pretty much nailed it ..... broken titanium studs on MRG oil filter housing.
It took 3 years for the official report to be released which confirmed the studs failing.
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One of the best examples were discussions on the Cougar S92 that went down off Newfoundland .... 18 dead ...... within 13 hours people here had pretty much nailed it ..... broken titanium studs on MRG oil filter housing.
It took 3 years for the official report to be released which confirmed the studs failing.
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They confirmed the Gearbox Oil Filter Studs had failed....and a lot of other additional factors that led to the Uncontrolled Ditching as well.
A lot of things were found to be duff in the actions of that day that followed on from the initial failure and from earlier on the design, testing, and certification of the aircraft
A lot of which is still being argued by pruners.
