Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

CHC Aker BP

Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

CHC Aker BP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 17th Apr 2018, 18:28
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CHC Aker BP

CHC has won an extension of the Aker contract. Staying with the L variant despite multiple L1s and L2s available. Sticking with the safety reputation of the older variant
birmingham is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2018, 20:01
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 5,222
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
I wasn't aware of any problems with the 322L1.
Fareastdriver is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2018, 21:14
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: aberdeen,scotland
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by birmingham
CHC has won an extension of the Aker contract. Staying with the L variant despite multiple L1s and L2s available. Sticking with the safety reputation of the older variant
They may want to rethink their other press statement 2 weeks ago then !
According to Mr Abbey (Regional Director CHC UK) the ‘Market is moving on from the Super Puma’ .
I guess some people just don’t know what a Super Puma is .
Typical of the ignorance around the whole debacle.
They very carefully mention only an ‘AS332L’ in this latest press release and there’s not a ‘Super Puma’ mentioned at all !
The hypocrisy is wonderfully ironic in CHC’s case especially.
chance it is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2018, 10:37
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by chance it
They may want to rethink their other press statement 2 weeks ago then !
According to Mr Abbey (Regional Director CHC UK) the ‘Market is moving on from the Super Puma’ .
I guess some people just don’t know what a Super Puma is .
Typical of the ignorance around the whole debacle.
They very carefully mention only an ‘AS332L’ in this latest press release and there’s not a ‘Super Puma’ mentioned at all !
The hypocrisy is wonderfully ironic in CHC’s case especially.
Yes the 'corporate speak' was particulary interesting around safety. While CHC themselves were, as far as we know entirely blameless, in the Turøy accident they have certainly been very unlucky in this regard.
birmingham is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2018, 11:17
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
I wasn't aware of any problems with the 322L1.
Certainly not recently. As you know the L1 MGB failure was more than 20 yrs ago and from an unrelated fault. My point was that with L2s available at much reduced cost and with their excellent modern systems they still stuck with the older type.
birmingham is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2018, 12:48
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,284
Received 344 Likes on 192 Posts
Certainly not recently. As you know the L1 MGB failure was more than 20 yrs ago
Which one was that? Are you mixing it up with the SA330J in Brunei in 1980? An L1 and an L are the same aircraft except for minor changes in engine limitations to give the L1 better hot & hi capabilities (Makila1A vs Makila 1A1).
212man is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2018, 13:12
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 5,222
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
The only 332 gearbox failure I know about was the logging aircraft that had a barbeque plate fracture. This was because they were not recording the flight cycles correctly.
Fareastdriver is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2018, 13:50
  #8 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
The only 332 gearbox failure I know about was the logging aircraft that had a barbeque plate fracture. This was because they were not recording the flight cycles correctly.
Hi,

No I was referring to LN-OPG in 1997 when NS workers started falling out of love with the Puma. That's why I was careful to point out the blade separation had a different cause (fatique in an engine drive spline). But blade separation with catastrophic consequebces. The HUMS debate came to the fore and the precautionary water landings of a couple of aircraft (false alarms on emergency lubrication systems) and a couple of entirely unrelated Puma incidents got the type something of an unfortunate reputation in E&P - largely underserved as taken accross the world and including all Puma sub types its record is pretty good. But in the NS with the history of the past 20 years and the fact that despite the best efforts of the investigators we still don't have a definitive root cause of the MGB failure in Turøy it is hard to rehabilitate its reputation. Hence CHC stick with the earlier type. As anyone familiar with PR knows the complete absence of the word Puma is unlikely to have been an oversight.
birmingham is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.