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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 08:52
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Originally Posted by mickjoebill
..Who would have thought that seatbelts in passenger cars would be fitted with a simple device that fires an explosive charge to tighten the belt?
The helicopter version of a similar explosive thingy is $10,000+ USD a piece. If the operators are squealing about the price of OEM floats, they would be squealing even louder if every passenger seat had to be fitted with one of those. Besides, passengers really need to be in control of their own seat belt release in an underwater escape scenario.
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 09:13
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There have been fatal accidents during filming from R44 helicopters.

Mike DeGruy for example.
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 10:55
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Im getting bored reading this thread now. Anyone else?
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So don’t read it.....


Originally Posted by GrayHorizonsHeli
Im getting bored reading this thread now. Anyone else?
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Originally Posted by Glevum
There have been fatal accidents during filming from R44 helicopters.

Mike DeGruy for example.
The R44 is an accident by itself ...
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 14:03
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Originally Posted by mickjoebill
Why do you ask?

Of the scores of pilots I’ve flown with, only one has included in the preflight briefing a reminder to double check that the belt hasn’t become twisted and the clasp is back to front.

Particularly relevant if the camera “crew” in the back are in the habit of loosening or release their belts during flight.

Mjb
The reason I ask is that if you have in fact competed multiple huet cyckes you would know that having a self releasing belt once underwater is counter productive to escaping a water filled cabin.
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@MartinM, can we not pollute this discussion of a fatal accident with gratuitous Robbie bashing? The issues on pax security, underwater escape/egress, floats, and much else are of interest to a great many. A good deal of the discussion in this thread has been a valuable learning experience for me. Robbie bashing has its own threads ...
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Originally Posted by SASless
So don’t read it.....
Oh darn..read that...even more bored now
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
@MartinM, can we not pollute this discussion of a fatal accident with gratuitous Robbie bashing? The issues on pax security, underwater escape/egress, floats, and much else are of interest to a great many. A good deal of the discussion in this thread has been a valuable learning experience for me. Robbie bashing has its own threads ...
Sure, no problem
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 10:22
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dont worry about it MartinM, theres a core group that only want to discuss their agenda. No one else need apply.
the thing is all the causes/theories have been identified, except for verification on the engine failure, but it's probably pretty clear. no new info has been brought forward.
because of that, the inevitable thread drift will occur, and some panties will get in a knot. You're allowed to comment. Dont let anyone bully you otherwise.
By this time next week, the hypothesis of Donald Trumps S76 flying with an Electronic Pulse Generator will surface as the inadvertent cause of the engine failure and then the thread will take on a new direction. And in a year from now the regulators will release the report that page 1 likely hit the nail on the head with.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 11:57
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Gray, please do identify the Core Group and the Agenda that is allowed to be discussed.

You mind explaining your authority for your own agenda you are pushing here which very much appears to suggest your have the inside line on all of this?

For sure Robbie bashing is not germane to the discussion of an EC Rotorcraft ditching in a New York City river with six occupants resulting in five deaths.

The floor is yours.
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lol sasless never take a chance off poking EC
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Not poking EC....just suggesting an Apples to Apples comparison is in order.

Had it been a LongRanger or Huey.....instead of the EC I would have said exactly the same thing.
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My opinions are not agendas...
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And it's no longer EC.....it's "Airbus".
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And it's no longer EC.....it's "Airbus".
You'd probably be disappointed to know that I still call them Aerospatiale

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You'd probably be disappointed to know that I till call them Aerospatiale
What have you got against Sud Aviation?
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Originally Posted by OvertHawk
What have you got against Sud Aviation?
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Aerosplat?
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Airbus - If you want to go right back the company's heritage traces back to Blériot and Lioré et Olivier in France and to Messerschmitt and Focke-Wulf in Germany.
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