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Old 7th Aug 2017, 07:33
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Unknown helicopter?

Does anybody has information of this Agusta? mockup? Early 139?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/...f5281945_b.jpg



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Old 7th Aug 2017, 13:30
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Could it be the Agusta A129 Utility helicopter? Images in this link of that proposed helicopter. I think it never made it past the mock-up stage.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/foru...hp?topic=869.0

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If we are talking about the blue helicopter in the middle its an early mock up of an Agusta 139

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Wow. That 139 bears little similarity to the 139 which ended up being produced.
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I think the A139 mock-up in the photo was a planned utility version of the A129 attack helicopter, using its engines, rotor system, transmission, landing gear and tailboom and was given the "next number up" in the designation sequence at Agusta. I guess that design was abandoned early on and the "A139" designation was left without an airframe until the current A139/AW139 came along.


All these proposed designs that never quite make it off the drawing board or beyond the mock-up stage are often quite interesting.


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I get chills just reading that it was to be powered by yet another Briish ****ty turbine.
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Calm down. Let's not forget where the gas turbine engine was 'born'.
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Interesting. I have seen this recently as one of a set of Warplanes cards (1989) as a camouflaged A139 LBH. It said there that it used the A129's dynamic system and landing gear with a new fuselage to carry 8 troops. They thought that it would also have an undernose gun turret and laterally mounted rocket launchers. The proposed engines were two 825 shp Rolls-Royce Gem 2 Mk 1004D Turboshafts. Maximum speed 260 kph, endurance 3 hours.
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This mockup was well publicised in the mid 1980s ,using the dynamic system of the A129 to produce a military/commercial transport variant.
What is more interesting is the silver grey fuselage to the right in the wrecks picture.Would anyone care to identify it? I will give you a clue...it was another transport design from an earlier era!
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Originally Posted by heli1
What is more interesting is the silver grey fuselage to the right in the wrecks picture.Would anyone care to identify it? I will give you a clue...it was another transport design from an earlier era!
Agusta AB102?

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Different angle?

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Agusta 102, not AB.
8 passenger piston engine with dynamic components derived from Bell design.
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Originally Posted by tottigol
Agusta 102, not AB.
8 passenger piston engine with dynamic components derived from Bell design.
Mmh...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agusta-Bell_AB.102

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Originally Posted by lowfat
god but thats Ugly
Apparently, the general layout wasn't that bad, as recently it got copy/pasted!
https://www.google.com/search?biw=19...oq=kamov+ka-62
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Originally Posted by Jim Barry
Different angle?
That mod was developed as part of the four-nation A129 Tonal light attack helicopter (LAH) study, conducted by Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and the UK:



The fairing was presumably an attempt to replicate the AH-64D's extended cheek fairings, for ammo, fuel and/or avionics (i.e. EFABs). The Netherlands and the UK ultimately selected the Apache, with Spain buying the Tiger; Italy continued to develop the AW129 on its own.

For comparison, here's the AW129's standard ammo feed, sans fairing:



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