Pilots in court over 'sex tape'
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Pilots in court over 'sex tape'
South Yorkshire Police helicopter sex film trial begins - BBC News
The pilots are being prosecuted? Surely the camera operator is on his own here?
The pilots are being prosecuted? Surely the camera operator is on his own here?
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The camera operator AND mission commander?!
Not the chauffeur! Unless policy has changed dramatically since I was last involved? The pilot was occasionally put firmly in his or her place, if they expressed any opinion regarding where or what the helicopter did? That's police business. Not the driver's!
Seems to me the pilots are in the clear, and the police officers are idiots, unless the video was intended to provide evidence for a prosecution. Rather than titilation?
Not the chauffeur! Unless policy has changed dramatically since I was last involved? The pilot was occasionally put firmly in his or her place, if they expressed any opinion regarding where or what the helicopter did? That's police business. Not the driver's!
Seems to me the pilots are in the clear, and the police officers are idiots, unless the video was intended to provide evidence for a prosecution. Rather than titilation?
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Found this story very interesting. I am from a completely opposite end of aviation but am curious, in these type of ops, do police officers place a lot of pressure/threats on pilots to go along with questionable practices? This seems to show the willingness of the police to go after their non-sworn 'helpers'.
The pilot IS the aircraft captain. Full stop, end of story.
The weathers ****, we're going home.
Short on fuel, we're going home.
This is not police work, we're going home.
If you play along with the perving, I'm sorry, but it's joint enterprise in the eyes of the law.
The weathers ****, we're going home.
Short on fuel, we're going home.
This is not police work, we're going home.
If you play along with the perving, I'm sorry, but it's joint enterprise in the eyes of the law.
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I'm sure most of the people in that business have seen similar?
In the dark, we often investigated vehicles parked in odd places. Only to inadvertently stumble across relatively innocent consenting behaviour.
That's a little different to what I've heard suggested here.
SS. In my experience, you're wrong!
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So what you're saying is, the 'chauffeur' always did what you told him to do? And in all cases you were in charge of the flight, and not him, as the aircraft Captain? You had final say on weather, fuel etc?
Which ASU were you with?
So what you're saying is, the 'chauffeur' always did what you told him to do? And in all cases you were in charge of the flight, and not him, as the aircraft Captain? You had final say on weather, fuel etc?
Which ASU were you with?
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You had final say on weather, fuel etc?
Which ASU were you with?
This is not police work, we're going home.
Don't get me wrong. I do think this is pretty nasty, from what I've heard.
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The pilot is in command...... sort of.
In real life, operational decisions are the customer's to make, until the flight becomes illegal or unsafe.
In real life, operational decisions are the customer's to make, until the flight becomes illegal or unsafe.
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Mr Wright said the couple shared Pogmore's interest in swinging and added it was "no coincidence" that the helicopter flew above "while they brazenly put on a show."
I gather from reading between the lines that this was far from mere opportunism. The above quote obliquely implies that the sex on a patio scene was deliberately staged and the Police helicopter filming it was part of the act. If pilots (ie more than one of them) were charged too then the CPS must be convinced - and we know how hard it is sometimes to convince them - that pilots colluded in this activity on multiple occasions.
It sounds like a group of ASU pervs inc. pilots going out to look for naked sunbathers to film and also setting up a sex-scene with other swingers so they could film it. It would be hard for pilots not to have colluded if such activity was repeated on several occasions or they went to a specific address without a callout and miraculously found a couple bonking who were happy to continue while waving at the helicopter! The fact that two pilots are involved says this is much more extensive and deliberate than a mere chance encounter and an opportunist camera operator.
Gonna be a juicy story, that's for sure!
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"And filming people sunbathing in their gardens most certainly falls into that category, as does launching to film a set-up sex scene."
Not unless they were within 500 feet etc. The prosecutor said that those cameras had a range of 2 miles.
Phil
Not unless they were within 500 feet etc. The prosecutor said that those cameras had a range of 2 miles.
Phil
I was at the Guild of Aviation Artists Exhibition on Monday and one of the pilots involved had four paintings on show. I have a very nice aviation picture drawn by him in my house.
I also worked with him a number of years ago and had the greatest respect for him as a pilot and an individual. I cannot imagine what it is like to have something of this nature clouding your life for several years. I do not have any idea where the truth lies in this case. I just hope it works out for him.
I also worked with him a number of years ago and had the greatest respect for him as a pilot and an individual. I cannot imagine what it is like to have something of this nature clouding your life for several years. I do not have any idea where the truth lies in this case. I just hope it works out for him.
Way back in the seventies infra red Night Sun was being trialled. This took the form of a filter over the normal lamp which made the beam invisible apart from those wearing I/R night vision goggles. Came the time that this kit had to be flown and the results assessed. For my sins I was nominated as the trials pilot and we commenced the night flying phase;
In the middle of June!!!
To avoid stray sources interfering the aircraft was blacked out internally and externally so I was on NVs to fly the aircraft. The safety pilot had nothing so he just sat it the middle of a black hole ready to turn up the instruments lights and recover should I go all wobbly.
There is not a lot of dark around the Hampshire commuter belt so we had to stray farther south to the Downs and the coast. Nothing much on the Downs but the sand dunes on the coast would sometimes get quite interesting.
"Corr! Look at them two down there", from the crewman.
I would look over "They're doing well," I would concur.
"What are they doing, what are they doing?" from the LHS because he couldn't see anything.
"Stop John; there's a helicopter up there."
"Don't worry; it's dark, he can't see anything."
In the middle of June!!!
To avoid stray sources interfering the aircraft was blacked out internally and externally so I was on NVs to fly the aircraft. The safety pilot had nothing so he just sat it the middle of a black hole ready to turn up the instruments lights and recover should I go all wobbly.
There is not a lot of dark around the Hampshire commuter belt so we had to stray farther south to the Downs and the coast. Nothing much on the Downs but the sand dunes on the coast would sometimes get quite interesting.
"Corr! Look at them two down there", from the crewman.
I would look over "They're doing well," I would concur.
"What are they doing, what are they doing?" from the LHS because he couldn't see anything.
"Stop John; there's a helicopter up there."
"Don't worry; it's dark, he can't see anything."