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Old 19th Jan 2017, 14:17
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Nobody has mentioned the ADAC model in Germany (or ANWB in the Netherlands) under which HEMS is provided as a function of car/life insurance as a small levy on the policy.


The problem for the UK is the tax, EU levies, policy increase due to fraud and everything else that's loaded into already an already expensive policy.


I don't have any issues with a centre of excellence for HEMS as such; my ask would be that it acts in support of standardisation across the sector and supports common rules, operating procedures and methodology.
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Old 19th Jan 2017, 15:47
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Originally Posted by alphanumeric
... "plus I never go in the sea or up the mountain so why should I pay?"
The brutal reality is that it's not the experts, and not even just those deliberately going there, that die in remote and mountainous terrain (or at sea). It's not the air ambulance that'll bag the bits of body from an air crash so the family will have something to bury.
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Old 19th Jan 2017, 20:42
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Yes, body recovery (or bits thereof) is a task normally reserved for SAR, MRT or RNLI - often with all the same risks involved as with a live casualty.
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Old 19th Jan 2017, 21:07
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When they say landing, do they mean long finals, short finals, in the hover or actual touchdown? Is there a height below which they can't use NVD?
Around 200', I think. Jayteeto told me. I'm surprised he hasn't popped in here yet.
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 06:14
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Perhaps operator specific, but there is no requirement across the board to come off NVG at any stage in the approach, and you can use them to the ground.

The only time that you might be required to come off-goggles is at a hospital where you're not exempt from the requirement to fly PC1. But then it's a lit pad so no need.
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 11:28
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I can understand different AOCs for different operators having slightly different limits but what are the CAA/EASA regs about NVD approaches to the ground?
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Old 22nd Jan 2017, 07:27
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Dave, some things you get involved in and some you don't.
Has anyone considered that a centre of excellence can sell courses and make a profit? They can also allow crews to train for scenarios more realistically.

There are two ways to approach the above comments.

First: our conditions are crap and yours are lovely. You shouldn't have good conditions. (Army mentality)

Second: our conditions are crap and yours are lovely. Well done, we need to bring ours up to your standard. (Airforce)
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Old 22nd Jan 2017, 18:21
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And having seen both side of the coin extensively, there are situations when one approach is better than the other but its never always the same one that is better.
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