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Old 6th January 2017 | 08:08
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Brutal & Frank About EASA

Just a heads up for those of you who might enjoy this. We did a one on one with Gerold Biner - head of Air Zermatt and he got stuck into EASA - which might put a smile on some of your faces.

Face to Face with Gerold Biner
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Old 6th January 2017 | 09:36
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I think this guy needs to get off the fence!
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Old 6th January 2017 | 09:48
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Good read!
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Old 6th January 2017 | 09:52
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I think this guy needs to get off the fence!
Do you reckon he is sitting on the fence? (Maybe a language problem?)
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Old 6th January 2017 | 09:59
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Sorry, my default is sarcasm, hard to convey in text. No I think his thoughts on EASA are pretty clear.
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Nowhere special was just being sarcastic - not a language issue I think beat me to it NWS
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NWS that's what emoticons are for, it's a WHOLE new language in itself. :P

mmmmm wonder if you could have an emoticon conversation

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One of the most refreshing interviews I have read in recent times, regardless of the topic being discussed. No bullsh!t, no dodging the question, just the interviewee's honest assessment, in this case of an aircraft and a regulatory body. No pandering to Airbus or EASA.


I wonder if politicians worldwide were like Gerald Biner, would we be better or worse off?


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Old 6th January 2017 | 11:32
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I'm going away to practice these emoticons on my phone...!
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500 - better off.
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Strange that their concerns weren't expressed by them in the CRD process: https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/fi...RD_PUBL....pdf
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Outstanding...if only anyone at EASA was gonna be listening.
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Old 6th January 2017 | 12:38
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Very good read.
Well done Gerold!
I think You are completely right about Easa!
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Strange that their concerns weren't expressed by them in the CRD process: https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/fi...RD_PUBL....pdf
Possibly they didn't respond because in the article in reply to a question whether Switzerland operates under Swiss or EASA operating rules he says:

"We are the most stupid country in the world because we didn’t join the EU but we strictly have to adopt 90 percent of their rules, while having no input into the making of those rules."

Which infers that the Swiss cannot comment on EASA rules - is that the case? If so perhaps there is an indication there of what may be to come in the UK eventually.
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No perhaps about it.




Gerold Biner: great guy, no messing.
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Old 6th January 2017 | 17:26
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congrats to you and Gerold.
He at last have good understanding of vertical industry within FOCA.

Imagine situation of much worse approach of local CAA, some off "safety approach" results within 7-8 years are:
-100LL consumption drop to approx 30%
-Vertical AOC or ATO , not exist
-Registered public helipad or heliport, not exist
-Even not any H in accordance to EU OPS CAT.POL.H.225 Helicopter operations to/from a public interest site
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Old 6th January 2017 | 20:20
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He has been brave enough to say what a lot of us think
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ICAO/CAA/EASA........

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Old 7th January 2017 | 06:07
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Originally Posted by kirkbymoorside
Which infers that the Swiss cannot comment on EASA rules - is that the case? If so perhaps there is an indication there of what may be to come in the UK eventually.
Not the case as they are comments submitted by REGA in that document.
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Old 7th January 2017 | 07:24
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The main problem is that the people making the rules are not affected by the rules. They are completely disconnected from the industry, at least as far as helicopters are concerned.

"Your safety is our mission" is the biggest b.s. I ever heard. Some guy sitting in a building in Cologne is not improving my safety in any way.
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