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Old 9th Nov 2016, 18:51
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Why Hollywood why?

I have long since wondered why a helo can't survive 30 seconds in a movie?
When one appears, rest assured those onboard will soon be limited to a small acknowledgement in the credits.
No fixed wing has the same Hollywood shelf life.
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Hollywood is all about satisfying people's expectations. The villain dies, the good guy saves the day and gets the pretty girl, the monster eats everything but gets killed eventually, the nerds builds the day-saving-device, the FWD car drifts through every corner. And the helicopter explodes with actors hanging on both skids, usually shortly after tail rotor malfunction accompanied with heavy smoke from the MGB area.
Upside of the movie helicopter: During it's extremely limited life cycle it is far superior to the real thing in pretty much every aspect.
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You're not watching the correct movies! I recommend San Andreas, or the best helo movie of all time: Deadly Encounter.
HU500 vs. Gazelles and Lamas, definitely the crest of helicopter movies,
and no CGI, all scenes done in real world by ral stunt pilots!
Full movie online https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njuaxuSs-Kk
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"Birds of Prey". Hughes 500 & Lama dueling in a hangar. Good flyin'.
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"Birds of Prey". Hughes 500 & Lama dueling in a hangar. Good flyin'.
Good flying yes, but a pilot with no headset, no feet on pedals, wrong / no hand on the stick and holding a mic in his left hand?
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When Cameron cast Michelle Rodriguez as the pilot in Avatar he wanted her to play a credible pilot so he sent her to spend a month doing a PPL(H) course with a friend of his, who then gave her about 10 hours "under instruction" stick time in a modern twin-turbine helicopter.

Personally I felt it showed in the movie - she looked at home in the cockpit and her movements & use of controls looked "real". This is something that usually grates with me in movies (how many times do you see a movie airline pilot initial a gentle altitude change by pulling the yoke back 10-12 inches!) so I was impressed.

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Old 9th Nov 2016, 22:43
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Originally Posted by chopjock
Good flying yes, but a pilot with no headset, no feet on pedals, wrong / no hand on the stick and holding a mic in his left hand?
He wasn't really flying
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Thanks, ODR1. I didn't know that about Avatar, but I remember thinking she looked more convincing than I expected.

Check out the Dodge Charger and Bell JetRanger chase on the second half of the film Dirty Mary Crazy Larry (1974). Jim Gavin (of Blue Thunder fame) did the great flying and did some acting, too.
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well i should have read the post first before repeating the same image, but hell it's funny enough to appear twice!
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Originally Posted by Tickle
Thanks, ODR1. I didn't know that about Avatar, but I remember thinking she looked more convincing than I expected.

Check out the Dodge Charger and Bell JetRanger chase on the second half of the film Dirty Mary Crazy Larry (1974). Jim Gavin (of Blue Thunder fame) did the great flying and did some acting, too.

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The most recent bond film had some pretty decent helo action in it. If I remember correctly not all of them exploded.

I watched a recent episode of The Blacklist, where an AS350 was being "piloted" a shot of the panel "in flight" showed all the instruments at 0 with the usual cautions lit for a machine that's standing on the ground.
The clever FBI then hacked into the machine and "turned off the rotors" - you can't make this stuff up (I guess you can) - after which the pilot wrestled with the cyclic (with both hands) and seemed to manage an out of ground hover before falling vertically and then exploding.
What utter drivel.
No wonder so many people have phobias of flying

Why is it we never see a Robbie treated this way onscreen? It's about the only place they don't explode
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Don't know why the helicopter people are upset. Have you seen the way cars blow up AT THE START of a post collision rollover. Why aren't the automotive industry complaining? Also our fixed wing compatriots have to suffer the stupidity of an Uzi being fired in the pressure hull of an aircraft and the bullets only producing sparks from the plastic hull lining (see Air Force 1).

I gave up watching "action" movies years ago when the bovine excrement became too thick. Maybe things will get better now we have a "reality" "star" as the US President? Arrrgh, maybe not!!!
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Well, at least in some movies, helis donīt explode:
- Red October, where the heli drops "Jack Ryan" near the USSS "Dallas"
- Sister Act, when about 20 nuns enter a Jet Ranger to get to Vegas
- The Guardian, with the JayHawks (if I remember correctly) showing off pretty cool


But I admit: Itīs hard to find a movie with some heli flying, where the bird doesnīt explode ;-)


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Try "Sky Heist".


There is some epic RW flying, notably with star Larry Hagman (I don't know who did the actual flying) flying under an Interstate under-pass in a Hughes 500 with the skids scraping the road and many similar stunts.


Plenty of action and no exploding helicopters until the baddies get their just deserts in their Alouette II at the film's climax.


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Hey Airwolf never blew up!
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And neither did the heli in Magnum, I guess (didnīt see the complete series) ;-)
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 13:40
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And neither did the heli in Magnum, I guess (didnīt see the complete series) ;-)
Back then it was too expensive to blow anything up and CGI didn't exist!

Airwolf did crash eventually in its new life as a German air ambulance.
The chopper in magnum also crashed twice during filming but never on screen.
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Helicopter? What about the PILOT? He always dies even if he's initially fine after the crash.
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have to suffer the stupidity of an Uzi being fired in the pressure hull of an aircraft and the bullets only producing sparks from the plastic hull lining
Not sure what the point is? It would be less spectacular if the "plastic" lining didn't make sparks. Who cares if the lining shouldn't spark?
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