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Saw of few of these for sale, they seem very underpriced relative to the rest of the rotary market and I have no type specific knowledge. What am I missing? Is it a maint hog or something etc?
Thanks!
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MD had some problems with spareparts ...
I know that some operators of MD helicopters joined together to exchange parts from helicopters on the ground to keep the rest of their fleets flying.
Donīt know, wether the situation has improved so...
MD had some problems with spareparts ...
I know that some operators of MD helicopters joined together to exchange parts from helicopters on the ground to keep the rest of their fleets flying.
Donīt know, wether the situation has improved so...
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Md 600 driver.
Does your 600 have YSAS/stab augmentation or whatever MD call it. The machine that was in Oz didn't and the punters in the back did get sick.
Does your 600 have YSAS/stab augmentation or whatever MD call it. The machine that was in Oz didn't and the punters in the back did get sick.
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Totally agree been using mine for last 4 years on tourist oops, flown thousands of passengers and can only remember 2 being sick
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Never flown 600, but got a couple thou hrs flying 520,s 15 odd years ago on utility work. Great longline machine, moved lots of drills and seismic. All ones I flew had YSAS but it never worked, so breaker pulled and placarded. You learnt to fly really smooth without it. Lots of fun but preferred the E or D myself. oh well back to flying the Bells and Eurocopter/Airbus whatever they call it these days.
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MD600N Facts...maybe, maybe not!
First I would like to say I am a big fan of the MD600N...took a ride (as a passenger) in one a few years back when I was regulated to piloting in the Robinson arena.
That being said....Looking at the production list at AeroBoek MD Helicopters NOTAR Production it lists 83 airframes produced for this model. According to the listings 21 of them NOT including the preproduction airframe (which was not part of the said 83) have crashed and thusly been written off. That's a full one third of the total! Many varying reasons for those accidents so its up to you to form your own opinion.
Still a fan and would eagerly step forward at a chance to pilot one
That being said....Looking at the production list at AeroBoek MD Helicopters NOTAR Production it lists 83 airframes produced for this model. According to the listings 21 of them NOT including the preproduction airframe (which was not part of the said 83) have crashed and thusly been written off. That's a full one third of the total! Many varying reasons for those accidents so its up to you to form your own opinion.
Still a fan and would eagerly step forward at a chance to pilot one
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Maybe you should only read data from official sources that are correct
Just because there was incident it does not mean that the aircraft isn't flying anymore
I for one would be happier flying in a 600 than a 22 ,44 ,66
Just because there was incident it does not mean that the aircraft isn't flying anymore
I for one would be happier flying in a 600 than a 22 ,44 ,66
How does it perform in autorotation? The 500 series is sporty in autorotation, as I understand it and perhaps the 600N is even more so.
It is flying with the optimum blade for the 500, namely the 530F blade but maybe it needs an even longer blade. That might have required a blade of a different chord and an increase in main rotor shaft height to ensure clearance over the tailboom. The even longer blade envisioned for the 520L/530K proposal proved not to have the desired performance. The 530F blade is the optimum for the 500 series but maybe not for the larger 600N airframe.
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It is flying with the optimum blade for the 500, namely the 530F blade but maybe it needs an even longer blade. That might have required a blade of a different chord and an increase in main rotor shaft height to ensure clearance over the tailboom. The even longer blade envisioned for the 520L/530K proposal proved not to have the desired performance. The 530F blade is the optimum for the 500 series but maybe not for the larger 600N airframe.
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Not sure which blade comes with it
They were already on the heli but also remember there are 6 not 5 or 4
And yes a bit sporty on autos but not the worst heli for autos
Not sure which blade comes with it
They were already on the heli but also remember there are 6 not 5 or 4
And yes a bit sporty on autos but not the worst heli for autos
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the number of helis crashed, compared to produced, is not a great statistic, as it doesn't tell what they were doing, or where they were doing it.
look at 214's and 214ST's. most of them crashed through abuse, or pilot error, or just the fact of where they were flying, that a minor problem meant that the machine was totalled. Kmax is the same, less than half remaining in the air.... all still pretty good machines.
look at 214's and 214ST's. most of them crashed through abuse, or pilot error, or just the fact of where they were flying, that a minor problem meant that the machine was totalled. Kmax is the same, less than half remaining in the air.... all still pretty good machines.
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"Maybe you should only read data from official sources that are correct"
NOT trying to start a fight....But some my or may not be worth the cost of repair...tried to find official accident reports...some of the airframes do not warrant the shipping and repair cost since accident occurred in a remote region....some of the links bring one to the NTSB report for said accident.
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/NTSB_RN-001_N600RN.pdf Airframe 001
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/NTSB_RN-004_N9204D.pdf Airframe 004
http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.av...00FA102&akey=1 Airframe 008
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/TSBCA_A06W0041.pdf Airframe 011
Picture Airframe 012, to be fair, cannot find that this airframe is flying again
Airframe 016, not know if this airframe is flying also
http://www.ntsb.gov/about/employment...12FA084&akey=1 Airframe 17
Air frame 18..unknown disposition of airframe
Airframe 20..write off
Airframe 024 ....destroyed during white out conditions at Toba Valley, British Columbia, Canada March 2009
Airframe 26 https://assets.publishing.service.go...pdf_501816.pdf
registration removed and currently in storage
Airframe 35 ....Cannot get details about the airframe currently
Airframe 37 http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.av...08X01729&key=1 more to follow
Airframe 48 Accident of MD-600 in Kazakhstan, total loss
Airframe 49 Russia, total loss
Airframe 50, was auctioned off at salvage
Airframe 54, I do not read nor write French, ...http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN054_BEA_04062004.pdf
Airframe 55, 28 December 2010 crash in Germany, D-HHWR total loss
Airframe 57, crash landed near Fountain Hills, Arizona. cabin used in James Bond 007 movie, Die another day
Additionally cannot find any info on Airframes 2, 27, 38, and 65
Airframe 63, crash near the Ataturk stadium in Antalya, Turkey. 19 July 2006 total loss
Airframe 71, destroyed by fire after emergency landing airframe W/O
Airframe 78, crash landed near Nimertek village, Nawraparha,
Narayanganj, Bangladesh...Write off
NOT trying to start a fight....But some my or may not be worth the cost of repair...tried to find official accident reports...some of the airframes do not warrant the shipping and repair cost since accident occurred in a remote region....some of the links bring one to the NTSB report for said accident.
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/NTSB_RN-001_N600RN.pdf Airframe 001
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/NTSB_RN-004_N9204D.pdf Airframe 004
http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.av...00FA102&akey=1 Airframe 008
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/TSBCA_A06W0041.pdf Airframe 011
Picture Airframe 012, to be fair, cannot find that this airframe is flying again
Airframe 016, not know if this airframe is flying also
http://www.ntsb.gov/about/employment...12FA084&akey=1 Airframe 17
Air frame 18..unknown disposition of airframe
Airframe 20..write off
Airframe 024 ....destroyed during white out conditions at Toba Valley, British Columbia, Canada March 2009
Airframe 26 https://assets.publishing.service.go...pdf_501816.pdf
registration removed and currently in storage
Airframe 35 ....Cannot get details about the airframe currently
Airframe 37 http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.av...08X01729&key=1 more to follow
Airframe 48 Accident of MD-600 in Kazakhstan, total loss
Airframe 49 Russia, total loss
Airframe 50, was auctioned off at salvage
Airframe 54, I do not read nor write French, ...http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN054_BEA_04062004.pdf
Airframe 55, 28 December 2010 crash in Germany, D-HHWR total loss
Airframe 57, crash landed near Fountain Hills, Arizona. cabin used in James Bond 007 movie, Die another day
Additionally cannot find any info on Airframes 2, 27, 38, and 65
Airframe 63, crash near the Ataturk stadium in Antalya, Turkey. 19 July 2006 total loss
Airframe 71, destroyed by fire after emergency landing airframe W/O
Airframe 78, crash landed near Nimertek village, Nawraparha,
Narayanganj, Bangladesh...Write off
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