Low Viz Risk takers!?
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Good morning, it was weekend, and copter did not seem to have any " dangly bits", and having seen the Sparky lads a few times I dont think it could have been them, they always seem to be in B206 or A350's
Good morning, it was weekend, and copter did not seem to have any " dangly bits", and having seen the Sparky lads a few times I dont think it could have been them, they always seem to be in B206 or A350's
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"Q3 would the moderator bar the individual that
submitted the photo: for not having submitted the picture
via the moderator. "
No.
But I'd delete the photograph if the a/c reg or some other distinctive feature enabled the helicopter or the pilot to be identified. And I'd ask the individual not to do it again.
Because -
(1) I know the CAA monitor the forums (and don't doubt some contributors work for the CAA) and I accept the CAA Enforcement Branch have their job to do, but I don't like the thought of PPRuNe being responsible for a pilot being prosecuted.
(2) Although Vfrpilotpb seems like a thoroughly sensible chap who wouldn't complain or criticise unnecessarily, this is an anonymous forum and I wouldn't want the 'anti-helicopter' crowd using it to cause trouble for a pilot.
(3) It's not fair to allow people who (effectively) have no means of obtaining redress to be criticised on a public forum.
submitted the photo: for not having submitted the picture
via the moderator. "
No.
But I'd delete the photograph if the a/c reg or some other distinctive feature enabled the helicopter or the pilot to be identified. And I'd ask the individual not to do it again.
Because -
(1) I know the CAA monitor the forums (and don't doubt some contributors work for the CAA) and I accept the CAA Enforcement Branch have their job to do, but I don't like the thought of PPRuNe being responsible for a pilot being prosecuted.
(2) Although Vfrpilotpb seems like a thoroughly sensible chap who wouldn't complain or criticise unnecessarily, this is an anonymous forum and I wouldn't want the 'anti-helicopter' crowd using it to cause trouble for a pilot.
(3) It's not fair to allow people who (effectively) have no means of obtaining redress to be criticised on a public forum.
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Two-tone grey R44 in the North... Well I know of one which is privately owned and residing up here, not too far from the Pennines. And strangely enough I have a tale of the owner..
One day I came in to work to be told that said owner had been in for fuel and had "landed between the JetRanger and the R22". I refused to accept this as these two helicopters were on marked pads which were spaced at the the distance recommended in the ICAO heliport manual. I know this for a fact because my Heliport Inspector is Gordon Bradley. Anyway, I checked on the R44 rotor diameter and the distance between the pads, and well..lets say if there was 4' either side it was a miracle.
Just by coincidence there was an insurance assessor there who had recently paid this "gentleman" out after he put the 44 tail into a fence. He took a photo of this landing just in case he had to face another claim in the future.
When he departed he took off over over the fuel installation, a main road and an industrial estate, completely at odds with he written departure instructions he had received previously.
So we have somebody here with a complete disregard for safety. Could he have been Mr. Low Viz Risk Taker???
Somebody who has s
One day I came in to work to be told that said owner had been in for fuel and had "landed between the JetRanger and the R22". I refused to accept this as these two helicopters were on marked pads which were spaced at the the distance recommended in the ICAO heliport manual. I know this for a fact because my Heliport Inspector is Gordon Bradley. Anyway, I checked on the R44 rotor diameter and the distance between the pads, and well..lets say if there was 4' either side it was a miracle.
Just by coincidence there was an insurance assessor there who had recently paid this "gentleman" out after he put the 44 tail into a fence. He took a photo of this landing just in case he had to face another claim in the future.
When he departed he took off over over the fuel installation, a main road and an industrial estate, completely at odds with he written departure instructions he had received previously.
So we have somebody here with a complete disregard for safety. Could he have been Mr. Low Viz Risk Taker???
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Oh my god!
If people, pilots, authorities, over on my part of the world were as strict and scrutinizing as over there, every-single-pilot (all of them) over here would be banned from going near a helicopter again!
I think the only people who shouldn't be talking bad or chasing other pilots is, OTHER PILOTS, specially anonymously.
There are enough people out there who would like to banish helicopters from the face of the earth.
Plus you never really know what the conditions up there really were, I think we shouldn't judge others like that.
In my home base you cannot go in ANY direction for more than 15 miles without having to climb to at least 10,600 ft to go further, there are mountains after mountains, then its raining often, low clouds, if weather was such an issue . . . . . . I think I'de be flying planes, or a desk job, or doctor maybe, No I got it, Aviation Authority!
If people, pilots, authorities, over on my part of the world were as strict and scrutinizing as over there, every-single-pilot (all of them) over here would be banned from going near a helicopter again!
I think the only people who shouldn't be talking bad or chasing other pilots is, OTHER PILOTS, specially anonymously.
There are enough people out there who would like to banish helicopters from the face of the earth.
Plus you never really know what the conditions up there really were, I think we shouldn't judge others like that.
In my home base you cannot go in ANY direction for more than 15 miles without having to climb to at least 10,600 ft to go further, there are mountains after mountains, then its raining often, low clouds, if weather was such an issue . . . . . . I think I'de be flying planes, or a desk job, or doctor maybe, No I got it, Aviation Authority!
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Well said, BlenderPilot!
We have no idea of the ID of the pilot seen by Vfr. Judging by what Vfr describes, he wasn't being too wise on this occasion.
He may always fly dangerously but, equally, he may on this one occasion have carried on when the safest and best course was to divert or make a precautionary landing.
Perhaps it was a mess he shouldn't have got himself into in the first place. He's not the first to do that, and he won't be the last.
Let's just hope it was a 'one-off' which thankfully he survived and he's learned a valuable lesson for the rest of his flying life.
We have no idea of the ID of the pilot seen by Vfr. Judging by what Vfr describes, he wasn't being too wise on this occasion.
He may always fly dangerously but, equally, he may on this one occasion have carried on when the safest and best course was to divert or make a precautionary landing.
Perhaps it was a mess he shouldn't have got himself into in the first place. He's not the first to do that, and he won't be the last.
Let's just hope it was a 'one-off' which thankfully he survived and he's learned a valuable lesson for the rest of his flying life.
Blender Pilot
Seconded!
Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools. Who knows what the actual circumstances were in the cockpit at the time, and why he/she did it.
I am glad that we have Heliport here! Keep up the good work.
Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools. Who knows what the actual circumstances were in the cockpit at the time, and why he/she did it.
I am glad that we have Heliport here! Keep up the good work.
Oh, Crikey!!! The Sky Cops read these threads......lordy what was i saying....honest it was just mere fabrication about the scudrunning ....honest.....just making up a story to entertain the chaps! My goodness....I shouldn't jest so much....
...by the way...what is the statute of limitations on scudrunning in the UK? I am sure there has to be some special court that outlaws like myself will find themselves haulled before to answer for our sins! If convicted ...do they tear off my epaulets, snatch off my brass buttons, whack me upon my broad butt with my saber, and then break it in half and throw it out the door behind me?
I mean golly...gee whiz....the Sky Cops would stoop to ease dropping upon such an august forum as this to find miscreants to flog in public? Now I understand the uproar over our FBI being able to surf the net, attend public events, and even go to the public library.....where will this loss of privacy end.
...by the way...what is the statute of limitations on scudrunning in the UK? I am sure there has to be some special court that outlaws like myself will find themselves haulled before to answer for our sins! If convicted ...do they tear off my epaulets, snatch off my brass buttons, whack me upon my broad butt with my saber, and then break it in half and throw it out the door behind me?
I mean golly...gee whiz....the Sky Cops would stoop to ease dropping upon such an august forum as this to find miscreants to flog in public? Now I understand the uproar over our FBI being able to surf the net, attend public events, and even go to the public library.....where will this loss of privacy end.
