What is Bell 206 fuel flow hover OGE?
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What is Bell 206 fuel flow hover OGE?
News helicopters have been hovering 500-1000' over the Orlando night club shooting site nearly continuously since it happened. Made me wonder how much fuel they'd be using to do it.
Anyone happen to know hover fuel flow for Bell 206? Not sure, but I think they're Longrangers. Temps have been around 30 deg C.
Anyone happen to know hover fuel flow for Bell 206? Not sure, but I think they're Longrangers. Temps have been around 30 deg C.
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Ta! Not as much as I thought it would be. Still not cheap though. There were 3 or more of them holding station for the last couple of days. It seemed some channels kept their heli there the whole time. Quick stop for fuel at KORL 1 minute away and back to it.
Speaking of 407 burning fuel, I have found that the exhaust from a 407 stings my eyes, whereas a regular C20 or C30 doesn't have this effect. Neither does a LTS-101, PT6, T53-L13 or anything else.
Any body else felt this?
Any body else felt this?
There were 3 or more of them holding station for the last couple of days. It seemed some channels kept their heli there the whole time. Quick stop for fuel at KORL 1 minute away and back to it.
.....and isn't that just the problem. 24 hr News isn't 24 hr news, it's actually 10 minutes of news on a permanent loop, with the talking heads quacking the mantra 'be scared, we're protecting you'. Just why I don't read the paper, listen to commercial radio or watch mainstream TV.
Just why I don't read the paper, listen to commercial radio or watch mainstream TV.
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I used to budget 6lb per minute on the 407, it was easy on the maths plus gave me a buffer.
In actual fact she used to burn 330lb /Hr or 5.5 lb a minute in normal operations.
One of my favourite singles!!
In actual fact she used to burn 330lb /Hr or 5.5 lb a minute in normal operations.
One of my favourite singles!!
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Thanks, everyone. I fly piston, TP & jet fixed wing so heli ops are a bit of an arcane art to me. However, I'm certainly aware that hovering OGE isn't exactly a good way to maximise endurance.
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OGE hover often uses no more, perhaps less, fuel than cruise. Normal cruise for most people is 80% torque, and you may be able to hover with that or less, depending on altitude, temperature, and weight. The yellow line for max cruise is 85%. I've hovered OGE at less, near sealevel, cool temps, and light. OTOH, hover OGE may not even be possible under less benign conditions. Weight is the biggest factor, of course. Get a 206 at max gross, and you may be barely able to hover IGE. The transition from IGE to OGE as you depart an offshore platform with no wind can be exciting in the summer when the SLF has lied to you about their weights.
Far better airmanship to fly small racetrack circuits - with a gyro stabilised camera you will still keep the picture but will use less fuel, be less likely to encounter IVRS or VRS and have some forward speed to use if the donkey stops.
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Far better airmanship to fly small racetrack circuits - with a gyro stabilised camera you will still keep the picture but will use less fuel, be less likely to encounter IVRS or VRS and have some forward speed to use if the donkey stops.
As if that isn't enough reason to remain in the hover, the camera mount position on the 206 will always have a sour spot where the skids intrude and spoil the shot.
Hence hovering is a desirable facet of newsgathering from a helicopter.
John, remember the Bad Old Days of a Continental mount out the side door - anything other than a hover was not appreciated. (Whatever happened to Christine? Did she transition across to small gyro nose mounts?)