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Old 12th Dec 2015, 18:15
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'Girl scout, 14, dies after 'falling 40ft from a coastguard helicopter'

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Old 12th Dec 2015, 21:47
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A tragic event.
How were they "thrown into the sea"?
I assume washed off by a large wave.
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Impressive response time. Challenging situation for the SAR crew to deal with: 15' waves, close to rocks, two persons in the water, one unconscious and the second must have been close as well from the winter water temp. Irish Coast Guard still fly the S61?
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Operate S92's now, 4 cabs ex Stornoway and Sumburgh plus 1 new machine.
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An unconscious casualty in a single strop??? please tell me they didn't do that.
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An unconscious casualty in a single strop??? please tell me they didn't do that.
I would back up to the point where somebody decided that the 14 year old girl should be on a venture scout trip . She probably would have preferred to be at home deciding what color nail polish she should be wearing.
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Triple lift

No Crab, I was told it was a triple lift as the winchie considered they were in immediate danger and no time for two doubles. I feel for him and the parents of the child.
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I would back up to the point where somebody decided that the 14 year old girl should be on a venture scout trip .
You may have a point Arnie, however it isn't about the girly things you mention it's the fact that Venture Scouting in Ireland is between the ages of 15-18. (In the UK it's 15-20)
Having said that though, the use of the term 'Venture Scout' may be incorrect reporting.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/irela...scout-14-dies-
following-hook-head-rescue-after-storm-1.2462197
Four young people were swept into the sea during a heavy swell in the aftermath of Storm Desmond.
Two of the four managed to clamber back onto rocks.
The girl was unconscious and was being kept afloat by a 15-year-old boy when both were rescued by the Irish Coast Guard Waterford-based helicopter.
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The Irish Coast Guard’s own review found the winch team had no option but to lift both teenagers simulatenously in an extremely challenging manoevre, due to the proximity of both to the rocks.
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I feel for him and the parents of the child.
Echo that sentiment - poor sods.
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Crab,your last word is not`pleasant`..we know what you mean ,but the written word may be `offensive` to some...
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Not sure why that would cause offence at all and frankly I don't sign up to this PC bull of trying to constantly second-guess who might or might not take offence for any words used, especially if taken out of context.

My sympathies are clearly with the winchman and the poor child's family - how I express that sentiment is personal freedom of choice.
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I was at the hook head lighthouse the follolwing day when the weather had only marginally improved, the place is treacherous, there are blowholes and warning signs about same. I understood that it was a freak wave, -common in that area in those conditions, if they were past the greenery and on rocks in that weather their supervision was clearly amiss, I did not venture onto the green sectrion even with my seventeen year old daughter, that said I understood the young girl was suspected to have hit her head on rocks when carried into the sea, so she may well have succumbed to that after a few days. Locally they were unanimous that the winchmans actions were justified in the circumstances and that other similar professionals in these circumstances would have been expected to act in the same manner (double hoist), They were clear there would be a review but not an enquiry. The s91a got there very quickly because of its relatively close proximity to the hook head by air. I personally feel the actions of the winchman were ballsy and in those circumstances Id prefer a reasonable risk to be taken than have a health and safety procastinator on the end of the winch.
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