Unknown Equipment, please identify
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Unknown Equipment, please identify
Hello everyone,
Browsing through an article about presidential helicopters I found this picture (I believe showing a UH34)... Wondering what that interesting accessory on the landing gear is? Can't come up with a reasonable explanation.
Browsing through an article about presidential helicopters I found this picture (I believe showing a UH34)... Wondering what that interesting accessory on the landing gear is? Can't come up with a reasonable explanation.
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They seem to have pipes leading to them. Not sure if they are some sort of plenum to mix ambient air with high pressure gas.
IIRC the tail boom was filled with foam (at least on the Wessex) to be the third point of contact.
Probably good enough to ditch in an ornamental pond.
Wonder why Marine One needed a winch.
IIRC the tail boom was filled with foam (at least on the Wessex) to be the third point of contact.
Probably good enough to ditch in an ornamental pond.
Wonder why Marine One needed a winch.
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Pressurised with Nitrogen - the same idea has been used on many helos - you push a button or make a switch in the cockpit and the floats inflate almost instantly. The aircraft will still turn turtle and float upside down though.
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Usually Helium as the gas flows much more quickly than Nitrogen to the floats due (in part) to it's smaller atom size compared to the much larger molecule of N2. Only problem is that over a period of time Helium leaks out of the bottle (again due to the small atomic size) and it's much more expensive.
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Originally Posted by Never Fretter
Not sure if they are some sort of plenum to mix ambient air with high pressure gas.
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Sorry Crab but after we ditched Wessex Foxtrot in the South China Sea off Hong Kong in a Typhoon the flot gear worked as advertised, she remained upright, and not a drop of water entered the cabin. Even as we were recovered, by other Wessex from the squadron, Foxtrot was still afloat and heading for mainland China!
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The account I heard about a Sikorsky S-58T Ditching was a bit amusing.
You hit the switch to arm the floats and Salt Water Immersion switches did the dirty work for you. The interesting bit is it takes a bit of time for the Saltwater and Switches to shake hands and then it takes a bit of time for the Floats to inflate.
My Chum said all went well following a decent arrival into the water....he heard something akin to the Alka Selzter sounds....Pop Pop....Fizz Fizz....and as the water began to go up over the wind screen he took a very...very deep breath thinking he was going to need as much as he could hold.....when out of the deep up she rises....wallowed back and forth and soon settled down very nicely all cozy and dry.
You hit the switch to arm the floats and Salt Water Immersion switches did the dirty work for you. The interesting bit is it takes a bit of time for the Saltwater and Switches to shake hands and then it takes a bit of time for the Floats to inflate.
My Chum said all went well following a decent arrival into the water....he heard something akin to the Alka Selzter sounds....Pop Pop....Fizz Fizz....and as the water began to go up over the wind screen he took a very...very deep breath thinking he was going to need as much as he could hold.....when out of the deep up she rises....wallowed back and forth and soon settled down very nicely all cozy and dry.
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Comparison of the Presidential and Wessex
Ahhh, you forgot the last item on the ditching check list - slash float with survival knife. SOP from those that flew the thing (31B). 
Foxtrot was still afloat and heading for mainland China
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When XD183, a Whirlwind, crashed in 1970 during the rundown of RAF Changi in Singapore the shortages on the Hercules, Shackleton and both Whirwind Squadrons were written off. They included 2 (two) Griffon engines and a Hercules nosewheel assembly.
I know that because I was 183's inventory holder and I had to sign all the disposal chits.
Strangely enough, even though I was not flying it, all my V&A flying clothing went with it too.
I know that because I was 183's inventory holder and I had to sign all the disposal chits.
Strangely enough, even though I was not flying it, all my V&A flying clothing went with it too.
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The Float Bag determined the Max Height the aircraft could fly as it expanded as you climbed to altitude. First indication you had gone too high was the Tail Rotor Pedals would not move as the bag swelled against the cables.
One could use that method as a way of creating Pedal Stops and footrests on long transits. So the Big Boys always told me anyway!
I loved the old Sikorsky's I got to fly....lovely old Girls!
One could use that method as a way of creating Pedal Stops and footrests on long transits. So the Big Boys always told me anyway!
I loved the old Sikorsky's I got to fly....lovely old Girls!
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845 Wessex Squadron had stores packed in chacons (Chatham Containers) about 8 feet by 8 feet by 10 feet tall lashed to the side of the flight deck in HMS "happy" HERMES as we searched for a missing Hull trawler ( the Gaul) in horrific winter storms off Bear Island in 1973.
Several chacons including the one belonging to 845 were washed overboard in spite of being secured well above the waterline.
Some months later we were berthed in Kalkara Creek Malta when a man from MOD procurement pitched up and insisted that a protesting 845 Squadron AEO bring out an extensive array of spares from stores including several Gnome engines and blade folding poles about 20 feet long making an enormous stack on the hangar floor. He then requested an empty chacon and instructed the AEO to place all the items in the chacon.
The AEO protested that there was no way even a small fraction would fit in the chacon.
"But that is what you wrote off in the chacon you lost! Was the MOD chaps reply.
Several chacons including the one belonging to 845 were washed overboard in spite of being secured well above the waterline.
Some months later we were berthed in Kalkara Creek Malta when a man from MOD procurement pitched up and insisted that a protesting 845 Squadron AEO bring out an extensive array of spares from stores including several Gnome engines and blade folding poles about 20 feet long making an enormous stack on the hangar floor. He then requested an empty chacon and instructed the AEO to place all the items in the chacon.
The AEO protested that there was no way even a small fraction would fit in the chacon.
"But that is what you wrote off in the chacon you lost! Was the MOD chaps reply.
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Planks had all left several years earlier - just rotary by then!
Sorry SAS just being obtuse!
I suspect he just fancied an all expenses paid holiday in the sun - can't remember any flak or Courts Martial following his visit - I think he just had a few pints of "nerve gas" and headed for the beach.
Trog
Sorry SAS just being obtuse!
I suspect he just fancied an all expenses paid holiday in the sun - can't remember any flak or Courts Martial following his visit - I think he just had a few pints of "nerve gas" and headed for the beach.
Trog
