Red Bull ace retires
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Red Bull ace retires
Had the pleasure of meeting him last years Heli Expo in Anaheim,
Cheers
Chuck Aaron Retiring from Airshows | AirshowStuff
Cheers
Chuck Aaron Retiring from Airshows | AirshowStuff
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That's a shame although it's probably a good way to become an old, bold pilot.
I don't understand "[Chuck] is the only certified helicopter aerobatic pilot in the US". At least for fixed wing, there's no such thing as an aerobatic rating. It's a pretty good idea to get some dual and some training (to put it mildly) but there's no FAA requirement to do so nor to get any kind of endorsement.
So what does this mean? What's to stop anyone with a helicopter ticket getting some (lots) of dual from Chuck and becoming the next Red Bull display pilot (regulation wise, I mean)?
I don't understand "[Chuck] is the only certified helicopter aerobatic pilot in the US". At least for fixed wing, there's no such thing as an aerobatic rating. It's a pretty good idea to get some dual and some training (to put it mildly) but there's no FAA requirement to do so nor to get any kind of endorsement.
So what does this mean? What's to stop anyone with a helicopter ticket getting some (lots) of dual from Chuck and becoming the next Red Bull display pilot (regulation wise, I mean)?
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So what does this mean? What's to stop anyone with a helicopter ticket getting some (lots) of dual from Chuck and becoming the next Red Bull display pilot (regulation wise, I mean)?
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Replacing Chuck? There are others ...
Easy to replace him. Rainer Wilke, who actually showed Chuck the ropes, springs to mind and a few others in Europe. Siegfried Schwarz is another one flying for Red Bull and plays in the same league as Rainer. They are all real certified helicopter aerobatic pilots.
Otherwise Rainer just has to train a new one.
Otherwise Rainer just has to train a new one.
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Nagy Futam, Budapest
It appears that despite the departure of Chuck, the Flying Bulls are going from strength to strength. See here BO105 aerobatics and Cobra display at Nagy Futam Show, Budapest (1 May 2016):
https://youtu.be/viHzTjQVTp0
https://youtu.be/viHzTjQVTp0
Last edited by Hot and Hi; 1st August 2016 at 21:08. Reason: included exact date of performance
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Rainer Wilke
YouTube poster KamovRider has since added the following commentary to this video:
Above the Danube the BO-105 flew an incredible demonstration piloted by Rainer Wilke. The demo was varied and imaginative with complicated rolls and loops.
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As far as I know, there are two red bull helicopters? One in the US and one in Europe.
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2 in the US, one based east coast and the other west to avoid long ferry flights.
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Red Bull has four (4) Bo 105 for their aerobatics shows. Two in the US are operated as "experimental" thus do not need a aerobatics certification.
The two German registered and Austria based aircraft are the worldwide only two helicopters actually certified for aerobatics by the manufacturer (Airbus) and the CAA ( German LBA).
The two German registered and Austria based aircraft are the worldwide only two helicopters actually certified for aerobatics by the manufacturer (Airbus) and the CAA ( German LBA).
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The Lynx has always done aeros, and I would think that Westlands would have put a stop to it if not certified.
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The Bo 105 started aerobatics in the military as well. But as the military can do what they want with their assets you could even use a Huey if you liked😉
Of course the RB helicopters are the only ones with civil certification. This is what counts. And there is no other manufacturer to date to have certified one of his (rotary) products for aerobatics!
This implements - there might be others who CAN do it but only RB is ALLOWED to do it🤓
By the way - with all the maintenance restrictions for the certification RB estimates an aerobatics flight hour for the Bo's with 36.000 Euros!
Of course the RB helicopters are the only ones with civil certification. This is what counts. And there is no other manufacturer to date to have certified one of his (rotary) products for aerobatics!
This implements - there might be others who CAN do it but only RB is ALLOWED to do it🤓
By the way - with all the maintenance restrictions for the certification RB estimates an aerobatics flight hour for the Bo's with 36.000 Euros!
