Prince William for Air Ambulance?
Isn't he now second inline to the throne?
He's more chance of getting injured riding his bike so if he wants to fly HEMS let him, and good luck to him.
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What happens if a local taliban branch decide to stage an accident when he's on duty. The newspapers say a few fighters have returned to these shores from the Syrian conflict.
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mixture;
Which would surely make it an ideal target, just like the Boston Marathon! or maybe closer to home, the Giraffe Restaurant in Exeter, Glasgow Airport, or Woolwich for example! 
Lets have a look and see what Norfolk Constabulary think about terrorism shall we?
Norfolk Constabulary
Seems to me that, as you say, you really don't know much about these things, besides who is to say that it would be what we think of as 'terrorists'?
Air ambulance under stone attack
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/231...bulance-2.html
I don't know much about these things but East Anglia is not exactly likely to be a hotbed of terrorism !
Lets have a look and see what Norfolk Constabulary think about terrorism shall we?
Norfolk Constabulary
The terrorist threat remains real and there is no room for complacency.
Seems to me that, as you say, you really don't know much about these things, besides who is to say that it would be what we think of as 'terrorists'?
Air ambulance under stone attack
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/231...bulance-2.html
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SilsoeSid,
Thanks for the reply.... but the short and sweet of it is that Wills is a big boy, he's done the rounds in the army and SAR, he's got an army of advisers at his disposal ...
I'm sure if terrorism was a serious threat to him in his new job in East Anglia, someone would have already whispered in his ear by now !
The chap doesn't need to work for the rest of his life, and yet he wants to, and not only does he want to work but he wants to work in some of the most challenging environments there are.... I think he is to be encouraged not discouraged !
We all face risks in our daily lives and we all find our own ways to deal with it and depends on how you look at it. For example, for the Americans, they would probably consider the security surrounding the Royal Family to be incredibly lax when compared to their own president who goes around in a multi-car motorcade and takes his own cars, jets and helicopters with him wherever he goes in the world and doesn't trust anything or anyone that's not made in the USA ...
Thanks for the reply.... but the short and sweet of it is that Wills is a big boy, he's done the rounds in the army and SAR, he's got an army of advisers at his disposal ...
I'm sure if terrorism was a serious threat to him in his new job in East Anglia, someone would have already whispered in his ear by now !
The chap doesn't need to work for the rest of his life, and yet he wants to, and not only does he want to work but he wants to work in some of the most challenging environments there are.... I think he is to be encouraged not discouraged !
We all face risks in our daily lives and we all find our own ways to deal with it and depends on how you look at it. For example, for the Americans, they would probably consider the security surrounding the Royal Family to be incredibly lax when compared to their own president who goes around in a multi-car motorcade and takes his own cars, jets and helicopters with him wherever he goes in the world and doesn't trust anything or anyone that's not made in the USA ...
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I'm sure your absolutely right mixy.
By the way, when you mentioned him doing "his rounds in the Army and SAR", (I assume by SAR you mean time in the RAF, as opposed to Army attached to SAR), you also forgot about his time in the Navy
By the way, when you mentioned him doing "his rounds in the Army and SAR", (I assume by SAR you mean time in the RAF, as opposed to Army attached to SAR), you also forgot about his time in the Navy
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It is possibly quite good for the Air Ambulance in that area, they will never be short on funds in future.
Isn't it really that Central Government should now be providing FULL costs and funding for the National Air Ambulance Fleet, after all it seems now to be an everyday service that is relied upon and definitely gives that Golden Hour ability to ANYONE who is in dire need of medical attention !
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Isn't it really that Central Government should now be providing FULL costs and funding for the National Air Ambulance Fleet, after all it seems now to be an everyday service that is relied upon and definitely gives that Golden Hour ability to ANYONE who is in dire need of medical attention !
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you might like to watch the TV shows to see just how close the public can get to the crews.
So yeah, tough job indeed and I've every respect for those who elect to take it up....
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...If he wants to play with helicopters
I somehow think that HRH doesn't 'play'. Next time you fly on a commercial flight would you like to think that your driver is 'playing'? T
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I somehow think that HRH doesn't 'play'. Next time you fly on a commercial flight would you like to think that your driver is 'playing'? T
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Thought like in many countries, a military qualification as an operational pilot on type, allows one to apply for the civilian equivalent qualification, ie, a CPL? If so, he will then have a HCPL, but possibly as is normally the case, sans an IR or instructor rating.
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He had a Mil IR, he can get a civvie IR, plus he's not low hours.
As for the crew being 'at risk', how dare you think for them. They have minds of their own; our paramedics are saying they would relish the opportunity to fly with HRH.
As for 'stealing' another CPL's job, some companies are struggling to find suitable candidates for HEMS, so forget that one.
The security issue is valid, the pilot is often left at the aircraft with full public access and terrorists could put out a false emergency, unlike RAF SAR....... Hang on a minute........ Oh yes, he's still alive.
In the past, Kings and Princes fought (and often died) from the front in bloody battles. They earned the respect of their followers. Why do you lot say that modern day royalty have to hide behind security??? If he wants to get out there and take a bit of personal risk to serve his people (selfish or not), let him do it. The people will respect him for it and his son will learn from an early age that you DON'T have to be a leech. If something does happen??? He will have known the risks, the (future) King is dead...... Long live the King.
As for the crew being 'at risk', how dare you think for them. They have minds of their own; our paramedics are saying they would relish the opportunity to fly with HRH.
As for 'stealing' another CPL's job, some companies are struggling to find suitable candidates for HEMS, so forget that one.
The security issue is valid, the pilot is often left at the aircraft with full public access and terrorists could put out a false emergency, unlike RAF SAR....... Hang on a minute........ Oh yes, he's still alive.
In the past, Kings and Princes fought (and often died) from the front in bloody battles. They earned the respect of their followers. Why do you lot say that modern day royalty have to hide behind security??? If he wants to get out there and take a bit of personal risk to serve his people (selfish or not), let him do it. The people will respect him for it and his son will learn from an early age that you DON'T have to be a leech. If something does happen??? He will have known the risks, the (future) King is dead...... Long live the King.
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Now, who do you think has been seen at Aviation House this morning?
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Why do you lot say that modern day royalty have to hide behind security???
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Cant quite put my finger on it, but ...
I think its obvious from that photo why extra security was required.... planned event, large crowd etc.
Surely HEMS brings an element of security in its own right ... you don't know when one will turn up and it doesn't hang around for longer than necessary because they want to get the patient back to ICU in a hurry.
And as for terrorists faking an incident, as far as I'm aware, HEMS doesn't get called out until a bunch of emergency services people on the ground have taken a look at the bodies and deemed it too much for an ambu to take care of ? So it would have to be a pretty darn realistic faking !
Mixture, it is not that simple unfortunately.
His 'team' will have to ramp up security @ the AA base for starters.
Secondly dependent on how many hospitals with LZ's - each of those will have to be secured everytime he flies in, methinks; because if I was Al or Dave Qaeda, I would definitely see this as a choke point and recce the area to see if I could get a fast ball in there........
Presumably the bill will go to the royal household for these "upgrades".
PB - perleeeeze leave HMG out of AA's! The ONLY reason we have so many already is because they are all self sufficient. Can you imagine the government owning the AA's? There would be a bare minimum covering the whole of England and Wales operating between 0900 - 1700 and all the staff would be on £6/hr!
There is more of a risk from him taking himself out with HEMS. You need eyes out the back of your head to fly into some of those LZ's!
His 'team' will have to ramp up security @ the AA base for starters.
Secondly dependent on how many hospitals with LZ's - each of those will have to be secured everytime he flies in, methinks; because if I was Al or Dave Qaeda, I would definitely see this as a choke point and recce the area to see if I could get a fast ball in there........
Presumably the bill will go to the royal household for these "upgrades".
PB - perleeeeze leave HMG out of AA's! The ONLY reason we have so many already is because they are all self sufficient. Can you imagine the government owning the AA's? There would be a bare minimum covering the whole of England and Wales operating between 0900 - 1700 and all the staff would be on £6/hr!
There is more of a risk from him taking himself out with HEMS. You need eyes out the back of your head to fly into some of those LZ's!
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Thomas coupling,
In one way I see your point of view, but then as one or two others have pointed out, if Al or Dave were going to take a pot shot at His Highness's chopper, surely they would have already taken the ample opportunities given to them during his SAR missions ?
Or are you saying during his time on SAR he just joined the WI and sat at the base baking cakes and making tea for the guys when they got back from a job ?
In one way I see your point of view, but then as one or two others have pointed out, if Al or Dave were going to take a pot shot at His Highness's chopper, surely they would have already taken the ample opportunities given to them during his SAR missions ?
Or are you saying during his time on SAR he just joined the WI and sat at the base baking cakes and making tea for the guys when they got back from a job ?
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mixture, if people are prepared to kill themselves in the name of their cause, a serious injury is nothing if it draws the victim.
I wonder if the ground based crews will be searching the rucksacks of casualties and other members of their party before the HRH AA arrives on scene, on the fens for example. You don't neccesarily have to get HRH himself if he stays with the aircraft, just those around him. This puts a different slant on the earlier jaytee post of "our paramedics are saying they would relish the opportunity to fly with HRH."
As for your comment of "surely they would have already taken the ample opportunities given to them during his SAR missions ?"
In the words of Bronsky Beat, It Ain't Necessarily So.
Being based on an isolated secure RAF station on Anglesey, with no way of telling if he is on SAR duty or not, is a bit different to an open civilian air ambo setup.
I wonder if the ground based crews will be searching the rucksacks of casualties and other members of their party before the HRH AA arrives on scene, on the fens for example. You don't neccesarily have to get HRH himself if he stays with the aircraft, just those around him. This puts a different slant on the earlier jaytee post of "our paramedics are saying they would relish the opportunity to fly with HRH."
As for your comment of "surely they would have already taken the ample opportunities given to them during his SAR missions ?"
In the words of Bronsky Beat, It Ain't Necessarily So.
Being based on an isolated secure RAF station on Anglesey, with no way of telling if he is on SAR duty or not, is a bit different to an open civilian air ambo setup.
You guys need to get out more !!! God you must be bored to be able to discuss the same old points page after page .......Trust me ...it will all be fine .
He is a good pilot . No training or testing will be left out , just as it wasnt when he did SAR. He has got a team of people behind him who know what they are doing !!!!
So just chill and wait and see .
He is a good pilot . No training or testing will be left out , just as it wasnt when he did SAR. He has got a team of people behind him who know what they are doing !!!!
So just chill and wait and see .
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Blimey Nigel, what lines are you reading between?
Nobody has doubted his abilities as a pilot.
You need to chill man!
Nobody has doubted his abilities as a pilot.
You need to chill man!