Making a helicopter more noisy!
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Making a helicopter more noisy!
For a few years I have been exploring the use of helicopters for warning public of approaching bushfires in remote areas by using airborne public address.
To be truly effective the warning needs to penetrate a building and ambient noise into a house, lets say with kids wearing headphones on their xbox.
Newer airborne public address kit is pretty good.
Im familiar with the latest airborne speaker technology and directional kit designed for riot and warfare
However I'm also wondering if there is a way of generating noise in other ways.
In theory we have main rotor, tail rotor, jet exhaust, compressor air bleed and aircraft 28 volt electrics to play with.
Ive excluded the use of carry on equipment.
Also effective could be a rumble or vibration… dropping flash bangs is a non runner due to threat of fire
mickjoebill
To be truly effective the warning needs to penetrate a building and ambient noise into a house, lets say with kids wearing headphones on their xbox.
Newer airborne public address kit is pretty good.
Im familiar with the latest airborne speaker technology and directional kit designed for riot and warfare
However I'm also wondering if there is a way of generating noise in other ways.
In theory we have main rotor, tail rotor, jet exhaust, compressor air bleed and aircraft 28 volt electrics to play with.
Ive excluded the use of carry on equipment.
Also effective could be a rumble or vibration… dropping flash bangs is a non runner due to threat of fire
mickjoebill
Last edited by mickjoebill; 8th Jan 2014 at 01:30.
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A locomotive style whistle powered by bleed air?
One witness to the Royal Commission into the Feb 7th fires in Victoria stated that she heard what she thought was the sound of a helicopter but was in fact the sound of the approaching bushfire!
To elaborate the idea is to provide a bushfire warning well ahead of the fire front, lets say 10-20 kms, to give communities time to react.
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Bell UH1 10' above the roof @ 120kts.
if that doesn't do it, double the mixture.
generally gets the windows shaking, wakes the babies etc.
Train horn run off bleed air (maybe, it would depend on the psi required, UH1 will push out 60-70 psi max, generally at 50lbs tq will produce less in the cruise, or even at 120kts), Could go just an electric one, hit the horn as you are passing over the roof top.
if that doesn't do it, double the mixture.
generally gets the windows shaking, wakes the babies etc.
Train horn run off bleed air (maybe, it would depend on the psi required, UH1 will push out 60-70 psi max, generally at 50lbs tq will produce less in the cruise, or even at 120kts), Could go just an electric one, hit the horn as you are passing over the roof top.
Mount this system in your Bell 204/205/212/412 Helicopter.....and Bob's yer Uncle!
Should fit in a BK-117 too.
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Should fit in a BK-117 too.
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"lets say 10-20 kms, to give communities time to react."
The danger is they might try to leave then and according to a mate that
lives in the Dandenongs and works in Boronia (East of Melbourne),
the last big fires were a log jam around the whole area because of
people leaving late.
The danger is they might try to leave then and according to a mate that
lives in the Dandenongs and works in Boronia (East of Melbourne),
the last big fires were a log jam around the whole area because of
people leaving late.
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Stick a couple of ref whistles on the blade tips
Seriously, if it's for fire warning then the sound of a fire truck siren would make better sense. I believe they are electrically opertated.
Seriously, if it's for fire warning then the sound of a fire truck siren would make better sense. I believe they are electrically opertated.
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Seriously, if it's for fire warning then the sound of a fire truck siren would make better sense. I believe they are electrically operated.
Truck sirens are quite directional.
In oz, helicopter is an ideal way to reach both remote homes on say 50 to 100 acres and homes on 2 or 4 acre blocks on the urban fringe.. would take hours to do it by road. Agricultural folk are more switched on to watching the horizon, it is those on the urban fringe in higher density that aren't quite as connected to nature as they think they are, cosseted inside with zircon on a hot day unaware that they are in the firing line.
The warning needs to be quite a different experience to hearing a passing fire truck to create what the experts call a trigger (to motivate people)
Stick a couple of ref whistles on the blade tips
Metch, fantastic link, Robbie Coltrane chews gum like a true mechanic…
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Last edited by mickjoebill; 9th Jan 2014 at 10:33.