UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 4
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All very good answers, but not what I'm after, perhaps you need a clue?
…… after the dancing on ice results
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I know NPAS is an organisation for England and Wales police forces, but was there ever any consideration of including the Scottish helicopter (originally Strathclyde). As an outsider it would seem better and more economical to just have the one source as well as common standards and equipment.
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NPAS takes the principle of mutual aid and nearest suitable aircraft attends the next job, 20 minutes to 98% of the population and all that. The problem with Scotland is that it's just the one aircraft for a huge area and it couldn't become part of NPAS without really skewing the criteria. The nearest back up would be Newcastle and they're already very busy.
So, no, a tie in with Scotland wouldn't offer NPAS anything in return.
So, no, a tie in with Scotland wouldn't offer NPAS anything in return.
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I see this story has popped up again, bit like a certain part of the subjects anatomy!!!
Surely if true this could be classed as misconduct in a public office?
Here is the link and I quote the last few lines....
C/Supt Ian Whitehouse | unProfessional Standards Department | West Yorkshire Police
Surely if true this could be classed as misconduct in a public office?
Here is the link and I quote the last few lines....
C/Supt Ian Whitehouse | unProfessional Standards Department | West Yorkshire Police
Since this page was published almost nine months ago, news has reached us of another alleged peccadillo of Whitehouse’s involving a National Police Air Service colleague in a London hotel. It is not known if one or both were on duty at the time
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It will be a great shame if the handfull of quality people trying to steer NPAS through a difficult start-up period are derailled by those with their snouts in the trough. To my mind, giving NPAS to one force was bound to lead to some square pegs being rammed into round holes rather than recruiting openly for such positions. The public expect better from senior officers.
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The public expect better from senior officers.
Perhaps most of the public expect that senior officers earning two grand a week are only interested in getting a better seat on the gravy train.
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Blimey!
Some very interesting links from that page!
Exclusive: Probe after steam rises at police gym - Yorkshire Post
DCI Elizabeth Belton
However;
Sex scandal senior officers escape rap from West Yorkshire Police
For goodness sake, isn't it terrible that in these times of austerity, there is a police station with a sauna!!
We're not allowed a cooker on which to prepare our meals, despite being 24 hours; not able to have a tv aerial, let alone a satellite dish, due to planning permissions; not allowed any form of fitness kit because it needs controlled access and useage training, (even if it is to allow preparation for the officers fitness tests); then again, we haven't asked for a sauna ... yet
Some very interesting links from that page!
Exclusive: Probe after steam rises at police gym - Yorkshire Post
DCI Elizabeth Belton
Mrs Whitehouse had been tipped off about the affair by a national newspaper journalist and, also, about the fact that the Killingbeck debacle was not the first time that her husband had been caught ‘at it’ by other police officers on undercover surveillance. Belton and Ian Whitehouse had been found, some months earlier, having sex on duty around 35 miles away from both her and Whitehouse’s respective bases, at South Elmsall, almost in South Yorkshire Police’s area.
Last night a spokeswoman said the officers had not been disciplined, but an investigation had begun into whether there had been a “breach of professional behaviour”.
Sex scandal senior officers escape rap from West Yorkshire Police
On April 18th this year the Yorkshire Post were tipped off by uPSD about a serious incident concerning three West Yorkshire Police officers: C/Supt Whitehouse, C/Insp Belton and Sgt Beddis. The following day a front page story headlined ‘Probe after steam rises at police gym’ shocked and dismayed the Post’s readers. It also remains one of the most visited pages on the newspaper’s website. More shocking is that we can now reveal that none of those three officers face either criminal prosecution or meaningful disciplinary sanction concerning the alleged offences of criminal damage, affray, section47 assault or discreditable conduct concerning an incident that began in the sauna at Killingbeck police station.
For goodness sake, isn't it terrible that in these times of austerity, there is a police station with a sauna!!
We're not allowed a cooker on which to prepare our meals, despite being 24 hours; not able to have a tv aerial, let alone a satellite dish, due to planning permissions; not allowed any form of fitness kit because it needs controlled access and useage training, (even if it is to allow preparation for the officers fitness tests); then again, we haven't asked for a sauna ... yet
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http://www.policeaviationnews.com/Ac...cember2013.pdf
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Who else was in contention for the contract?
The National Police Air Service has awarded the contract to deliver a police role equipped fixed-wing surveillance aircraft to Airborne Technologies of Wiener Neustadt, Austria.
Keen to explore the opportunities presented by the new generation of fixed wing aircraft, through conducting a 6-month operational trial, NPAS decided to add a fixed-wing aircraft to their helicopter-dominated fleet.
Keen to explore the opportunities presented by the new generation of fixed wing aircraft, through conducting a 6-month operational trial, NPAS decided to add a fixed-wing aircraft to their helicopter-dominated fleet.
Who else was in contention for the contract?
Last edited by SilsoeSid; 2nd Mar 2014 at 19:32. Reason: Addition of airborne technologies link & pic.
To get back to the flying side of NPAS, I hear that the Hawarden cab has been offline for a sick pilot because NPAS couldn't supply a relief. Come on guys, this was a pre planned op. You knew it was coming.
Wouldn't have happened with contract pilots.
Efficient and effective.
Wouldn't have happened with contract pilots.
Efficient and effective.
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I think NPAS failings are typical of Police Management failings, they really have no clue on man management, forward planning, sadly the list goes on.
I agree that not planning for sick leave is disgraceful and proves my point. The lack of cover at certain times of the day and then when a user who pays for 1400 hours a year cant get the support due to the aircraft being out on a task elsewhere is also bad planning....
The best result would have been to cut out these failed managers and put the service in the hands of a private company who has the experience of running aircraft, systems and logistics. It's the only way forward
I agree that not planning for sick leave is disgraceful and proves my point. The lack of cover at certain times of the day and then when a user who pays for 1400 hours a year cant get the support due to the aircraft being out on a task elsewhere is also bad planning....
The best result would have been to cut out these failed managers and put the service in the hands of a private company who has the experience of running aircraft, systems and logistics. It's the only way forward
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I do remember in the early days of NPAS planning being briefed that this sort of situation was 'planned in'. Sounds odd at first, but what they've had to go with due to funding (or lack of it ) is a rigid structure of pilot numbers and soak up the fact that at times when sickness occurs, the next nearest aircraft will attend (even if it's not on shift yet in the case of planned early morning ops). We all know in practice that's a system with very thin cover for coping with unforeseen pilot shortage, and I know personally that during the planning of NPAS, those at the top wanted more back-up built in , it just couldn't be afforded.
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http://www.policeaviationnews.com/Ac...sMarch2014.pdf
In response to the 'Comet' article in Feb 2014;
The Comet
In response to the 'Comet' article in Feb 2014;
Superintendent Richard Watson, from NPAS, said: “NPAS continues to deliver a cost- effective service, balancing the need to save money against the requirement of a quickly deployable asset. It is anticipated NPAS will save up to £15 million a year compared to previous arrangements for police air support.
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They are incompetent. With all the cost cutting I do hope that Whitehouse allegedly bedding a fellow officer in a hotel used similar cost cutting methods and travelled in a cheaper rental car and used a travel lodge for the deed....just in the spirit of keeping overheads down...
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Was the room, like the service ...
... by the hour?
... by the hour?