UK MP's to examine helicopter safety
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Mor's done etcetera but nothing gets done until someone dies or so it seems. The problem is the certification laws. Look at piston engines, we put up with engines that use almost as much oil as fuel, are twice as heavy as they need to be, slightly over speed it at 3200 rpm and it falls apart. Lets be honest if you took a Lycoming to Ford and said this is the best aerospace piston engine for you cars you wouldn't even get an interview. When was the last time you ever topped up a modern car engine with oil ? I bet never not very 4hours of operation !!!!!
Mor's done etcetera but nothing gets done until someone dies or so it seems. The problem is the certification laws. Look at piston engines, we put up with engines that use almost as much oil as fuel, are twice as heavy as they need to be, slightly over speed it at 3200 rpm and it falls apart. Lets be honest if you took a Lycoming to Ford and said this is the best aerospace piston engine for you cars you wouldn't even get an interview. When was the last time you ever topped up a modern car engine with oil ? I bet never not very 4hours of operation !!!!!
MP criticises ‘piecemeal’ approach to copter safety
Press and Journal - Article - MP criticises ?piecemeal? approach to copter safety
An MP has criticised plans to hold five separate inquiries into North Sea helicopter safety as a “piecemeal” approach that will “do nothing” to allay offshore workers’ concerns.
Frank Doran stepped up his calls for the UK Government to order a judge-led public inquiry into the five helicopter incidents which have happened in the last four years.
It follows the refusal of former UK Transport Minister Simon Burns to discuss his demand until the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has completed its investigation next year.
Frank Doran stepped up his calls for the UK Government to order a judge-led public inquiry into the five helicopter incidents which have happened in the last four years.
It follows the refusal of former UK Transport Minister Simon Burns to discuss his demand until the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has completed its investigation next year.
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DB,
Hear hear sir.
Hughes 500,
Have you owned an expensive Porsche ? No ? One of the most expensive ones (Turbo) uses similar oil compared to a Lycoming ! For real, because it has a very similar design motor. (And no, I have not owned one either, but a mate has).
You may or may not know, but engine failures in Robbies that use these motors are a negligible (almost non-existent) cause of accidents. The Robbie site has a very interesting set of facts regarding this issue.
Small turbines are more prone to failure than a piston...properly maintained and not over stressed of course. There is plenty of data to support this.
All the best,
Arrrj
Hear hear sir.
Hughes 500,
Have you owned an expensive Porsche ? No ? One of the most expensive ones (Turbo) uses similar oil compared to a Lycoming ! For real, because it has a very similar design motor. (And no, I have not owned one either, but a mate has).
You may or may not know, but engine failures in Robbies that use these motors are a negligible (almost non-existent) cause of accidents. The Robbie site has a very interesting set of facts regarding this issue.
Small turbines are more prone to failure than a piston...properly maintained and not over stressed of course. There is plenty of data to support this.
All the best,
Arrrj
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When was the last time you ever topped up a modern car engine with oil ? I bet never not very 4hours of operation !!!!!
To be honest I can't be bothered to be honest
Oaf
If the helicopters you fly vibrate that much you shouldnt be flying them
Arrj one of my customers is a Porsche dealer, he has assured me that if a customer was using a litre of oil every 300 miles they would be fitting a new engine !!!
If the helicopters you fly vibrate that much you shouldnt be flying them
Arrj one of my customers is a Porsche dealer, he has assured me that if a customer was using a litre of oil every 300 miles they would be fitting a new engine !!!
Arjj
Have owned 3 Porsches over the last 30 years & looked after a fair few more, never seen oil use like your friends, other than if it was shot usually from poor service real brutal use or high mileage, would suggest a changes of dealer.
Looking at the helicopter industry I feel that both the small user & the majors role over
& take the s**t that manufacturers dish out, both in price of parts & reliability of product in general.
Reading through threads we have rain ingress (a 1950 car problem) causing untold damage to electronics, the recall on cylinders (After market) as H500 says oil use, again a 1950 automotive problem, over rev past 3200 & the bill can be eye watering or worse. poor paint \corrosion, blade de lamination, erosion strips lifting in hours from new. doors that pop open. gear boxes, non delivery of spares, non delivery of product (Canada)
Would you like me to go on ?.
If the customer accepts the poor level of service that is the service we will get.
Have owned 3 Porsches over the last 30 years & looked after a fair few more, never seen oil use like your friends, other than if it was shot usually from poor service real brutal use or high mileage, would suggest a changes of dealer.
Looking at the helicopter industry I feel that both the small user & the majors role over
& take the s**t that manufacturers dish out, both in price of parts & reliability of product in general.
Reading through threads we have rain ingress (a 1950 car problem) causing untold damage to electronics, the recall on cylinders (After market) as H500 says oil use, again a 1950 automotive problem, over rev past 3200 & the bill can be eye watering or worse. poor paint \corrosion, blade de lamination, erosion strips lifting in hours from new. doors that pop open. gear boxes, non delivery of spares, non delivery of product (Canada)
Would you like me to go on ?.
If the customer accepts the poor level of service that is the service we will get.
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