Short sleeved flying suits
Yes.....and more actually....long sleeves, gloves, boots, helmet, body armor....and sweated my butt off.
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Me too, with armour plates all over the cabin and the windows closed to give extra protection, and two ridiculous fans keeping my face HOT. If it helps consider a 2 piece flight suit and a lot of cold water.
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liquid cooled vests
Why not pump some cool water round a suitable vest? (Withdraw pin and lob...).
And as for the 2 piece I heard of some terrible thing happening to some spam when he had his shirt tails out and in an accident the fire went straight up his shirt like a chimney...
And as for the 2 piece I heard of some terrible thing happening to some spam when he had his shirt tails out and in an accident the fire went straight up his shirt like a chimney...
Last edited by GipsyMagpie; 20th Jun 2013 at 20:21.
Would it be permissable to wear safety flip-flops with a short-sleeved flying suit?
Ralph: Nanny state means nanny compromises.
The chances of being flash burnt in a post accident crash are slim to nil.
The chances of exposing unnecessary flesh to the chemicals/heat of working around the helo - slim to nil.
Common sense should prevail and the overiding factor is comfortable surroundings whilst flying, taking safety into account.
PS: Bear in mind that the moment your flying overalls are washed/dry cleaned - means the end to the flash protection it previously provided.
The chances of being flash burnt in a post accident crash are slim to nil.
The chances of exposing unnecessary flesh to the chemicals/heat of working around the helo - slim to nil.
Common sense should prevail and the overiding factor is comfortable surroundings whilst flying, taking safety into account.
PS: Bear in mind that the moment your flying overalls are washed/dry cleaned - means the end to the flash protection it previously provided.
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PS: Bear in mind that the moment your flying overalls are washed/dry cleaned - means the end to the flash protection it previously provided.
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What is the difference between inherently flame-resistant fabrics and chemically dependent flame-retardant fabrics?
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Protective apparel made with Nomex® is inherently flame-resistant. The actual structure of the fiber itself is not flammable, which means the protection is permanent. The protection is built into the fiber itself and can never be worn away or washed out. When exposed to flame, the aramid fiber swells and becomes thicker, forming a protective barrier between the heat source and the skin. This protective barrier stays supple until it cools, helping to give the wearer vital extra seconds of protection to escape.
Company issue is Nomex long-sleeve, which means I roll the sleeves up normally
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Yes and No
Agree with TC that Nomex, boots, etc. are overkill in operations.
That being said, disagree with loss of fire protection due to washing. Nomex fire protection...such as it is...is inherent in the fabric and is not compromised by washing as directed, namely in a mild detergent with rinsing and hanging to air dry.
That being said, disagree with loss of fire protection due to washing. Nomex fire protection...such as it is...is inherent in the fabric and is not compromised by washing as directed, namely in a mild detergent with rinsing and hanging to air dry.
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Standard UK mil issue green flying suit passes the 4-second flash fire test in a flame chamber, and passes it well. After the 4 seconds of fire, the suit does not support continued combustion, remains intact and unburnt, if perhaps a touch crispy in places. I have seen the tests. (And the one on the original CS95, which was just scary).
Nomex is a fibre inherent in the fabric; it cannot be washed out. The fire retardancy of the garment can, however, be degraded by impregnation with dirt or oil, damage (such as ironing f*cking creases into the sleeves) and washing them with too much powder and/or inadequate rinsing, all of which can provide a 'flame path' through the fabric and allow the fire to penetrate.
However, if you are not wearing a minimum of one other layer under it, no matter how good the Nomex is (other fire retarding systems are probably available), you WILL burn.
Nomex is a fibre inherent in the fabric; it cannot be washed out. The fire retardancy of the garment can, however, be degraded by impregnation with dirt or oil, damage (such as ironing f*cking creases into the sleeves) and washing them with too much powder and/or inadequate rinsing, all of which can provide a 'flame path' through the fabric and allow the fire to penetrate.
However, if you are not wearing a minimum of one other layer under it, no matter how good the Nomex is (other fire retarding systems are probably available), you WILL burn.
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