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Old 12th Jun 2013, 12:12
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Grrr Joep RDM - dutch court news

Just been to see the tulips and this case was all over the news in Holland.

The name rang a bell on here some time ago but I cant find the link.
Wasn't this Joep chap the owner of PAS with police contracts?
Looked at their home page and it says the RDM group was the parent company.

The prosecution are asking for a 5.5 year jail sentance, forged passports etc. Does he still have a half share in MDHI through his Belgian business?

Two news pages translated by google.
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RDM became Elite Holdings NV or something according to the SAS webpage. Specialist Aviation Services - Frequently Asked Questions - FAQs

Tilton owns 51% with the Belgian company and bank holding the other %
New majority owner revives MD Helicopters | Aviation International News

MD helicopters BV
MD Helicopters B.V.: Private Company Information - Businessweek

Will it affect any of these companies if he is sent down for 5 years?
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 20:23
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I live in holland,
I will also keep an I out on the news
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Old 5th Jul 2013, 15:38
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Nope i look at the news everyday but nothing is mentioned.

Edit this is the last info i found:
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Didn't he also own the dry-docks in Curacao...? Nothing surprises me anymore!

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Yep true he also owned drying docks in Curacao.
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Old 6th Jul 2013, 15:34
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Joeps right hand man - speedy

The chaps at Silverstone were telling me about Joeps right hand man who got caught trying to reach the sound barrier in his jam jar not so long ago.


Police Aviation Services MD Henk Schaeken, 54, of Cheltenham. Exceeding the speed limit. Fined 500, 45 costs, four penalty points.

Glos magistrates where not too pleased.

He should have stuck to an MD902 while visiting from sunny Arizona

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Old 19th Jul 2013, 14:23
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Prison

Will probably do 4 months and then be out on a tag or license or appeal and do no time at all! Millionaires seem to have more influence than most in these circumstances!
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The money trail - what can be recovered?

I bet there will be a few board meetings in Mesa at MD Helicopters where he is a major share holder in the US, and his UK company SAS Ltd next week.

Do the Dutch justice team have the power to chase the Dutch mans many millions around the world through the proceeds of crime act?
How many millions did he put into other foreign companies using the RDM laundered money?

According to todays news the ex scrap metal dealer managed to obtain 180 million euro's through his RDM company and associates?

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Joep Van den Nieuwenhuijzen assumes acquittal on appeal,
quote "I'm not going to spend a day in jail let alone 2.5 years. I have better things to do than play cards there.'' A game
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The False passport money trail. 180million missing

Now he has been found guilty of fraud, perjury etc, why aren't the tax investigators looking at where the missing 180million euro's went?
The ex RDM shipyard workers lost their jobs through this corrupt practice.

Why did Joep van den N need a false passport? That could be the key to finding the missing millions.

Did he use it to launder the 180m into false bank accounts, or did it go to his many companies under his relatives names across the world?

If you or I tried to dodge a fraction of the180m the tax men would have frozen our assets and we would be in jail for ten years or more. Is it one rule for millionaires and another for others?

Did he take the money to other countries in a suitcase or did he give it to his most trusted company men to move around the world?
He has companies in the US and UK I noted from the RDM company breakdown above.

The tax men in different countries should be following the yellow brick road and use the powers in place to find the missing 180m and give it back to the poor workers at RDM who lost everything.
Wikipedia on the many court cases.
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Corpwatch who sparked the latest trial. CorpWatch : CorpWatch Bribery Report Helps Spark Dutch Inquiry

Why did he have the false passport? Does an honest person use a false passport?

The false passport trail should show where he had been using it which may lead the tax men to the missing 180m. All his assets should be frozen until the money is paid back.

Comments from the trial about the false passport Joep was found using.
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What about the falsified passport?
In 2007, Joep held in a check in Middelharnis. He invoked diplomatic immunity and showed a diplomatic passport of Comoros, an archipelago east of Africa??
It was a handwritten passport which he is the investment advisor for the Comoros. But the expiry date was changed from the year 2006 in 2008.
Van den Nieuwenhuyzen stated in court that he wanted to help the export of lobster. How was that date changed? he had no idea about.
Van den Nieuwenhuyzen also has a diplomatic passport of Vanuatu (an island republic in the Pacific) and an ordinary Dutch passport. In court he gave an address in China as home address. !!
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Joep "Money what money? I haven't even got a bag"
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He looks like he doesn't have a care in the world....... Neither would I with 180 million stashed away!
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News from holland.

Joep held a news conference in a coffee bar after the trial. So much for a cell? This news reporter has a point about Joep. Charming, but would you trust him? Will he get a few more years in jail when he appeals?

Part of the news text from.
Follow the Money.
by Author Eric Scmit. The article is at the bottom of the page under the title,
Joep van den Nieuwenhuyzen:
THE END OF A megalomaniac PRESTIDIGITATOR.
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"The bags had lots of files inside which he didnt use in court after saying he had more evidence."
"No second Joep van den Nieuwenhuyzen A very flamboyant gentleman that operated as businesses doctor 'did for many years, but in fact a deceitful charlatan turned out to be an unprecedented trail of destruction left behind.
The excellent biography of NRC journalist Philip de Witt Wijnen about Joep, gives a clear picture of him. No regrets
Virtually everything that Van den Nieuwenhuyzen touched turned into charcoal.
He never showed any compassion for the injured parties. Joep thinks only of himself.
On Friday Van den Nieuwenhuyzen showed no form of regret. No trace of remorse or defeat.
On the contrary, in which he improvised press conference in a nearby coffee shop he told for the umpteenth time that he is "nothing wrong" had done, and he stated that he would do everything exactly the same."

What happened to the money Joep? Are the investigators looking into what he did in other countries?

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The judges full verdict on Joep van den Nieuwenhuyzen

More facts from the case against RDM's Joep van den N.

When Joep declared RDM bankrupt he started a new company under his RDM aerospace company called Elite Helicopter Holdings NV which gets a mentions on his UK company webpage.
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The judges view of it all.
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2 others had already been found guilty.
"Partly Suspects
The two co-accused Van den N, a director and controller of a bankrupt company from the RDM group, were sentenced to four months' imprisonment and 240 hours of community service, one month suspended prison sentence. Both are found guilty of forgery, the Director also want to bankruptcy fraud."

Which of his other companies has the 180m euros?
A lot of RDM workers have lost everything here in the netherlands due to this mans corruption.
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It appears that all financial and management links with the SAS Group [PAS/MAS] were cut in 2007 and they do not expect any repercussions as a result of this case.
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Joeps aerospace connection - the timeline

The latest news on Joeps aerospace connection and firms around the world.
He does indeed receive revenue's from SAS ltd in the UK who are also his company under the aerospace part of RDM now Elite as previously mentioned in another post. His younger brother is still also a director. Wonder if the missing 180m is stashed there?

The timeline of all his dodgy deals from 1982. They should call him Teflon.
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"On 15 November 2006, in a civil case RDM Holding Van den Nieuwenhuyzen ordered to repay 6.8 million euros to the trustee in bankruptcy of SP Aerospace, also a company in the conglomerate of Van den Nieuwenhuyzen.
Shortly before the bankruptcy, he has to pay for parts of RDM Holding tanks and howitzers this company. 6.8 million
The judge ruled that the entire amount plus statutory interest to the curator of SP Aerospace to be repaid.
The court further states that there is deliberate fraud of creditors in bankruptcy."
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Been back to Holland and they are amazed at how short a sentance he got.
A friend mentioned other points which are public knowledge over there.

Some light reading on where the missing money might be and what Joep actually owns.

SAS Ltd appears to be still owned on paper by chairman Joep, who allows his younger brother to sit on the board for him. The trail leads back to when he called the parent company RDM.

Joep Van Den Nieuwenhuyzen: Executive Profile & Biography - Businessweek

Joep chairman of the board, and the different company names
RDM Holding NV: Private Company Information - Businessweek

The details of RDM before he changed the company name to Elite
RDM Holding NV: Private Company Information - Businessweek

Elite Helicopters Holding N V
C/O: Rdm Aerospace N V
Willemstad, Netherlands Antilles
Elite Helicopters Holding N V - Willemstad, Netherlands Antilles | Company Profile

SAS ltd and their connection to their parent company RDM, since renamed by Joep to Elite Helicopter Holding NV. Joep employed his friend Henk to be MD in the UK, but stays in Arizona mostly.
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Joeps Elite Helicopter Holding NV.
Elite Helicopters Holding N V

Joep's Royal Begemann Group and how things were syphoned off.
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More on the Begemann Group.
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Another financial case of reverse transactions following Joeps arrest in Switzerland in 2007 which led to the latest conviction for fraud etc.
Koninklijke Begemann Groep NV: Private Company Information - Businessweek

Where is the missing 180m? Is it in the UK in a SAS store room or in the USA

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The money

I doubt for one minute it is here in the UK or in the US, fraudulent funds are traced easily in these countries post 9/11 I guess off shore accounts, which following the recent G8 meeting are finally been clamped down on..... Time will tell, I'm sure that some authority is still pursuing this case.
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Who is really behind the various companies.

Re PANews post,
It would appear that all ties to joep have not been cut as is being mooted by the SAS ltd company since the court verdict.
Joep's younger brother Jeroen van den Nieuwenhuyzen was only given a seat on the SAS board to act as joeps spokesman after joep was arrested in Switzerland 2007 on behalf of the Dutch authorities.

SPECIALIST AVIATION SERVICES LIMITED of GL51 6SS in CHELTENHAM GLOUCESTERSHIRE

(Three of the current directors including antonius are linked to joep and his RDM company - long time associates and joeps employees.)
Antonius known as Henk to his friends is a friend of Joeps and worked for his RDM company before being given a seat on the SAS board as managing director, as Joep knew the Dutch were closing in on his activities.
Some of the board directors had changed but the company failed to update companies house which is required by law, but it is unknown if the were fined for this?
SAS Ltd Directors and Secretaries

Richard Cobbold5 Dec 2005 ⇒ Present (7 Years)DirectorPinsent Masons Secretarial Limited20 Sep 2001 ⇒ Present (11 Years)Company SecretaryThomas Pirin1 Jan 2011 ⇒ Present (2 Years)DirectorAntonius Schaeken23 Jan 2006 ⇒ Present (7 Years)DirectorJeroen Van Den Nieuwenhuitzen1 Jan 2011 ⇒ Present (2 Years)DirectorJames Webster25 Jan 2006 ⇒ Present (7 Years)Director

The only thing that changed was the RDM name when he declared it bankrupt by Joep and renamed it Elite under his Bergamman group.

The Dutch arrest warrant was the only reason joep took a back seat at SAS amongst other companies. His Elite (ex RDM) empire still owns the UK company. He also has ties to MDHI and the Belgium company as previously mentioned.

You wont see any documents relating to an actual sale amount or who the supposed new owner of SAS ltd actually is, because there never was one.

It was just a smoke screen to throw the press and gov officials off the trail while money was moved about. Why do you think SAS still have the Elite Holdings NV named as their parent company.

Joep had already been arrested for the arms deals ten years ago when the tanks he was supplying where supposed to have been scrapped by his RDM company. Its taken the latest charges 6 years to reach court

Re nomore's post (31st july) on tracking the missing 180m.
Joep has infact been very busy according to the published news links transfering assets post 9/11, including the reverse transaction of his Bergamman group sale.

The missing 180m euros mentioned at his fraud trial is a very large amount. I wonder if it has been turned into diamonds or helicopters?
Now there's a interesting way to move money around the world.

Joep has been very busy in China over the last 6 years where he has a large estate, and has been trying to sell the MDHI product line over there.
The word in Holland is he has already asked China for a diplomatic passport to go with his other false diplomatic passports.

All of the above is already well documented in press articles. Google is the tax mans friend.
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Public prosecutor to ask for larger sentance

The Public prosecution team has just announced that they are appealing against the very low sentance are going back to courty to ask for Joep to be jailed for at least 5 years.

The OM are also chasing the missing money and are looking back to pre RDM days according to an insider.

I wonder how much Joep still has in MDHI? Boeing may have the last laugh after their recent court case with MDHI, if Joeps money is located.
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The other national papers cover latest appeal news in more detail. (Aug 2)
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The top ten white collar crimes

The 10 biggest white-collar criminals. In the world!

Guess who made number 2 just behind Bernie Madoff.
Begins with a J and who dabbles in aviation companies

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Wonder if he likes porridge or if he is putting the final touches to his latest NPAS contract quote
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